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Battery saga once again
« on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:25pm »
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Hi everyone!
 
You may remember I posted a couple of weeks back that my battery kept draining when I hadn't used my car for a while. I got the glove compartment light checked and that seemed to be causing the problem and the car was okay for a while. However, it's done it again!  
 
Should I get a new battery?
 
Thanks for any help Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:29pm »
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If it's still the same one it might be an idea Wink
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #2 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:41pm »
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How was the glovebox fixed, could it be doing it again?
 
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #3 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:45pm »
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could be the alternator too
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:48pm »
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on Jun 18th, 2007, 6:41pm, Tompion wrote:
How was the glovebox fixed, could it be doing it again?

 
The bulb was just taken out so it should still be okay I guess.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 6:50pm »
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on Jun 18th, 2007, 6:45pm, Highlander wrote:
could be the alternator too

 
The battery held its charge for a while and I had the alternator replaced not too long ago so I hope it isn't that, but thanks for the idea Highlander and I'll make sure it gets checked again.
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #6 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 7:03am »
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Check the cigar lighter socket as well. These can cause problems.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 9:04am »
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on Jun 19th, 2007, 7:03am, Simmo wrote:
Check the cigar lighter socket as well. These can cause problems.

 
Cheers Simmo, will do. Anyone else got any ideas?  Huh
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 10:57am »
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Check the light in the boot as well.  If it stays on when the lid's closed and the car's parked, it will drain the battery.  Wink
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #9 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 2:49am »
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It's probably no help or consolation but 'er indoors' does it as well. I've checked all the usual things AND it's had a new battery AND it still does it for no apparent reason. Were Scorps designed for the sole purpose of driving people round the twist? Sad
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 8:41pm »
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I can't recall the correct module name, but there is a battery saver system. It only allows the glove box, boot light and interior lights to remain on for 20 minutes after the ignition is turned off. So discharge by these lamps should not occur.
 
Try an amp meter in series with one of the battery leads with everything off, reading should fall to around 10mA or less - but start on a 20amp range first and work down just in case.
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 22nd, 2007, 7:53am »
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There is a relay...No.16 in the auxillary fusebox, passenger side, which controls the power saver and fuse 36 in the same box.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 22nd, 2007, 8:11am »
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Light on?  Huh
 
A way of being able to tell if the boot or glove compartment light or even the "Fridge" light is on when the door is closed is to get a piece of fibre optic strand and apply it near the bulb with the end poking out, you should be able to see the light through the strand.
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 22nd, 2007, 3:31pm »
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For the boot light you could also of course open the rear seats from inside and peer into the boot.
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 22nd, 2007, 8:09pm »
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #15 on: Jun 22nd, 2007, 9:11pm »
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on Jun 22nd, 2007, 3:31pm, mindofitsown wrote:
For the boot light you could also of course open the rear seats from inside and peer into the boot.

 
Or use the occasion to kidnap your bank manager and stuff him into the cavernous boot in the Scorpio Wink
 
Just remember to ask him whether the light goes out before you clobber him over the head with a sock full of sand Roll Eyes
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #16 on: Jun 24th, 2007, 5:25pm »
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check if your vehicle is charging and at what voltage by depressing and Holding in the trip clock button on the dash for '10' seconds or so, the display will look as though it is broke ! then press and let go quickly to scroll through a list of engine type, relays speed in km/pr hr and charge rate in volts. My bus gives 13.6/7 volts and I have no battery issues yet ! thanks to snoopy for showing me that trick. Ps it works on all models, I have the exec. low spec.
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 26th, 2007, 11:05am »
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Thanks for all your advice everyone Cheesy
 
I had my Scorp checked out by a mechanic dude and he said it's something to do with the internal lights, cos the battery was draining even when they were all switched off. He reckons it's either the relay for the internal lights or the whole system is faulty, the latter being expensive to fix.  
 
So for now he's removed the relay and I have no internal lights. But at least my battery should stay charged for about three weeks which makes me happy Grin
 
Oh and I've put a torch in the glove compartment Wink
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #18 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 7:59pm »
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My 2.3 is draining heavily and I noticed the fog lamp indicator was glowing when the car was off and the fog lamp switch off, and no fog lights on). I pulled the fog light fuses and they had no effect. I pulled the relay and the indicator light went brighter. Unfortuntely the vehicle came back from an extended engine repair and service with a loose main fuse box lid and I am concerned that the water may have got into the box and it is shorting, I haven't tried to see how this might affect the fog light indicator light by tracing the wire. I put this in on the off chance it might be happening to yours (when it's dark it is a good idea to look for any source of light) and to see if anyone has any comments on these symptoms. As a further note does anyone know when the "batery saver" relay cuts in? It would be good if it could cut in before the battery got too low to start the car but I'm not a battery expert. My battery is a new Halfords 600A Cadmium brute (halfords were the only people opne when it went first)
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Re: Battery saga once again
« Reply #19 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:49am »
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hi there
 
the battery saver switches the interior lights off after 20 mins.
 
it does sound like water in one of the layers in the fusebox(s).
 
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