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24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« on: Nov 10th, 2006, 4:56am » |
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Hi,
Does anyone know the part no. for the wiring loom that goes in the V to injectors and sensors++? I am sure that it was mentioned on this site some time ago, but can't find it. My local FD quoted 2800£ for the entire engine bay loom, and that was the only thing they could find,,,
Thanks for any help.
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #1 on: Nov 10th, 2006, 3:41pm » |
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Hi Arnse,
Finis code is 1003231, and Ford describe the part as the Fuel Cut Off Loom a bit misleading, but it is in fact the Engine and Gearbox loom that runs from the plugs on the inner wing through the V to all injection equipment and down to auto transmission and Lambda sensors.
I did mine recently and it cost £285.40 from Fordparts UK.
Hope this helps, 
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #2 on: Nov 10th, 2006, 7:30pm » |
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Hi Dave,
That's great, thank You very much! Now there is light at the end of the tunnel!
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #3 on: Nov 13th, 2006, 8:30pm » |
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Hi Dave
did you manage to slide the plugs down the top off the gear box or did you have to drop the box to connect this part of the loom
thanks Craig
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #4 on: Nov 14th, 2006, 7:54am » |
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It can be done without dropping the gearbox, not the easiest thing in the world but can be done 
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #5 on: Nov 14th, 2006, 8:28am » |
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Yes, what I did was to leave the exhaust connected, but released the rubbers, and lowered the rear gearbox mounting to allow me to get round the gearbox.
My hands are a bit like a bunch of pork sausages so I found the extra 10 minutes or so to do this worthwhile. It also means you can get at all the clipping points to make sure the new loom is secure and won't chafe anywhere.
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #6 on: Jan 20th, 2007, 7:08pm » |
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Finaly a little update on this never ending issue: To avoid a cash out of 7000 Nkr. I desided to double check all work previously done on the engine. No faults found! Removed spark plugs all cylinders and found all left bank (cyl 4,5,6) sparks all black. To much fuel is obviously going though these cylinders, also tail pipe is black and smelling of fuel. Again I like to explain how the car is behaving: At cold start all is fine untill warm. Then missfiring and no steady idle run and alot of unburned fuel at rear. At first I suspected wiring loom, but now I am very confused since it only affects one cyl. bank.
Any ideas out there? (just got the OBD 2 cable from Alex Pepper, but missing a lap top)
Any help appreciated.
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #7 on: Jan 20th, 2007, 9:19pm » |
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hi,
sounds like the fuel rail pressure valve, there is a good write up on the site, fiddly but not too expensive....
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #8 on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:19pm » |
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Thanks Tintin,
but I thought the fuel pressure regulator was common for all 6 cylinders? How could a faulty regulator affect just one bank?
And why is it always starting perfectly when cold and struggle to idle and misfire when hot?
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #9 on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:27pm » |
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In 'Fault finding' HERE there is also mention of an intake pipe having been dislodged. Could this be a possibility?.
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #10 on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:35pm » |
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Hi,
not sure on the FPR, but i know mine was rich on one side, and had poor hot-start and idle. took a reading and it was overfuelling badly on one side (other side was only slightly overfuelled). changed the fpr and problem went away.
of course 2 months later, i had problems down that side with a blocked cat, replaced it and all was well again. so if its been going on for a while, spare a thought for the cats !!
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #11 on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 10:41pm » |
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on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:27pm, Simmo wrote:| In 'Fault finding' HERE there is also mention of an intake pipe having been dislodged. Could this be a possibility?. |
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Simmo, thanks for advice, is it the main intake pipe (from air cleaner)you are refering to? If so, that is checked and no problem whatsoever.
Tintin, problems just started after change out of that ba,,, cooling water hose that is routed from thermostat housing, going through Cyl head and block into a connection in front of "V". I have had all parts dismantelled again for double check,no faults found. I think I am loosing, and the dam nice car will still stay in my yard for a while, unless someone can pinpoint the exact fault.
Sorry for this never ending story, Promisse, I will never give up, and still hope for advice from UK.
(only six of these cars in Norway and profesional help is none existing)
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #12 on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 11:03pm » |
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inlet manifold cracked?
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #13 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 9:31am » |
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interesting, mine had the hose to the thermostat done under the manifold), just before the FPR started playing up. i wonder if disturbing that area might cause problems with the FPR. if i had known about it, i would have got it done when everything on that side was apart ! all your symptoms of poor hot start and idle, overfuelling, match the FPR failing (have you checked out the write-up?)
Highlander is more knowledgable than me on these cars, so certainly worth checking out his idea of leaky manifold 
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #14 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 10:18am » |
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Oh i dont know, you've got far more problem experience than me (touching wood)!
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #15 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 11:08am » |
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on Jan 24th, 2007, 9:31am, tintin wrote:interesting, mine had the hose to the thermostat done under the manifold), just before the FPR started playing up. i wonder if disturbing that area might cause problems with the FPR. if i had known about it, i would have got it done when everything on that side was apart ! all your symptoms of poor hot start and idle, overfuelling, match the FPR failing (have you checked out the write-up?)
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What do you mean with checking the write up? I am not familiare with OBD and such things, but awaiting a friend with a lap top (I got the cable from Alex Pepper last week)
Can this overfueling be checked via OBD?
Cracked manifold could be a possibility, if so, that should have produced a hissing sound? All gaskets were renewed everywere.
That FPR is fitted on left bank rail if i'm not wrong and hopefully that is why only that side is overfueling? Only theories here, but maybe someday all these theories will pinpoint the fault.
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #16 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 12:19pm » |
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Hi,
There is a good write up on the site about the FPR....
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fuelreg.htm
Yes, i got a scan on the car, showed LTFT (long term fuel trims) were well into the negatives, so the car was overfuelling that side to compensate.....was also knocking out the lambda sensor readings on that side. here is a write up on the OBD results....
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/obd2scan6.htm
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #17 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 1:00pm » |
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Hi
thanks, I have a good feeling that we are closer to the problem now.
Await the scan and I will keep you all updated. (Away though for skiing this weekend, finally got some snow over here)
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #18 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 1:15pm » |
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ps mine failed at 95k (miles)
if you can, get the scan file and post on the OBD section, so everyone can see the results and give advice.....
jonnycab has been through a similar problem, worth checking out his posts.
FPR can be bought from www.fordpartsuk.co.uk about £90 i think. if you've had that side apart already, should only be ~ 3 or 4 hrs work
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Re: 24V injectors++wiring loom, 95mod.
« Reply #19 on: Jan 24th, 2007, 1:54pm » |
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Yes You're right, should not take to long. Already had "octopus" apart twice to double check my initial jobb, all visible parts ok.
Will post results as soon as I can, probably not before next week but it's all worth waiting for if that "beast" and all other with similar problems can get back on the road!!
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