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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« on: Mar 28th, 2004, 2:26pm » |
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are they the same design as the old one?
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #1 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 6:59pm » |
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Or did you get that 3 button one pictured on their site? They look to me like the inserts which fit into a key. If that works on the Scorpio, I'd much rather have one of those. I could always go and see for myself, as they are only 10mins down the road from me.
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #2 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 9:57pm » |
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But are the keys with the inserts PATS compatible? if so, i would rather have the remote in the key as well.
If you do go look Paul, let us know!
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Just called them - they can't supply the remote fobs!
mrobbo2000 - what did you get?
O well back to FMDs!!
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #4 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 9:35am » |
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Hi Guys,
real shame we still haven’t got anywhere with the remote situation.
BTW on the subject of security, Daven has put some articles on the net about the scorp. They make interesting reading! Its a bit worrying what they said about the security on the scorp. Apparently, the scorp is easier to gain access than a base model 94 fiesta  I wonder how?
read it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.neale/whatcar5.htm
BTW nice work Daven 
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #5 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 5:47pm » |
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What? They can't do the fobs? After all that stuff written on their site, they make it sound so easy. Just what is so special about the Scorpio remote that it can't be reproduced??
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #7 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 6:35pm » |
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Looking at the above link it looks as though the three button remote and the 'type 2' horshoe key should work. I did email them and ask them to clear this question up so if i get a reply ill pass it on.
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I have just had a message from Mark via the forum - he says it does work, and I have no reason to disbelieve him, (Mark sorry if we sound a bit dubious, but no one has managed to get a remote for the Scorpio other than from Fords!)
I did ring them today - I quote "Hang on I'll check - nah sorry mate can't get 'em!)
Did you get a part number for the one they send you ?
What model and year is your car - wonder if there was yet another remote issued!?
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Okay - just phoned enigma!
The fob they supply is the horseshoe key type for PATS2 and has the transponder as well!
Total cost inc postage is 44.65 (the rest of the key is £12!) - I have ordered one this morning and have invited them to read the site as they may be able to help with keys and locks as well (nice find Mark!)
If it works I will let you know - but sounds promising as Mark (mrrobbo2000) has a 95 Ultima!
Watch this space! 
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #10 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 1:41pm » |
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Whats PATS2? are we PATS2? and if so, what was PATS1?
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #12 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 3:35pm » |
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this is getting interesting now,maybe a breakthrough i hope,daven we are waiting with baited breath.............
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #14 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 7:24pm » |
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I got one of those 3 button remote 'inserts' for the horse shoe shaped key (I ordered it wrongly!) but it didn't work when I tried it on my car. That might be a problem with my car though as I still haven't got the remote for it. It will be interesting to hear the outcome.
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #15 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 10:38pm » |
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Dave,
I know what PATS is, I meant whats the difference between PATS1 and PATS2? if indeed there ever was a '1'
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #16 on: Mar 31st, 2004, 7:25am » |
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Sorry Andy!
Found this which may help:
With PATS I, as long as you have at least one working key and can read the owners manual that came with the vehicle, you've got a good shot at programming your new key without additional assistance.
With PATS II, things become a little more difficult. Someone decided that two working keys be required for admittance to the programming show. On the surface, this is a good idea. It pretty much insures that only the owner of the vehicle will be making duplicate keys. The down side is that many vehicle owners don't think about making extra keys until they only have one, or even worse no keys!
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #17 on: Mar 31st, 2004, 10:25am » |
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Ah! so that makes us PATS 1 then, we only need the red master to program a new slave key. I think there migtht be some later models on pats 2 as i seem to remember reading something now you mention it.
In which case...is it gonna work??
so over to you dave, you got your new key yet?
my breath is also baited (or could be the garlic bread i had the other night) 
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 31st, 2004, 11:11am » |
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Hoping it will be there when I get home tonight!
Mark - Who started this thread (dunno why the posts are missing!?) found the company, has a 95 Ultima - unless a PATS2 has been retro-fitted to his car!
Will let you know as soon as I have tested it!
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Re: ford scorpio remotes
« Reply #19 on: Mar 31st, 2004, 1:35pm » |
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Just for your info regarding thetwo different systems i found the following:-
Keys
Up to 98 ¼ MY, three keys are allocated to every new vehicle and all three must be coded to the PATS in order for it to function correctly. The first key to be inserted into the ignition lock barrel is identified to the system as the 'master' key (red in colour).
Note:
The master key must be the first key used when starting the engine for the first time following the installation of a new PATS module. This will ensure the owner/operator is able to programme additional 'slave' keys (black in colour) if required.
The master key provided with every new vehicle should be kept in a safe place and not be used as the daily key. This is because it is the only key which will allow the owner/operator to programme additional slave keys.
Up to a maximum of sixteen keys may be programmed to any one system (red master key system).
From 98 ¼ MY onwards, only two keys are allocated to every new vehicle. Both keys are required to programme additional keys by the owner/operator. Up to a maximum of eight keys may be programmed to the system (two key system).
if that helps
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