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sad_eyes
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Red Master Key
« on: May 24th, 2005, 10:40am » |
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I own a late 1998 24v Ultima.It came with 2 keys both with red chips in the handles.There was no completely Red key.Should there be one.Someone told me they didn,t do a master key for this model.Is this right?
Thanks for your help
Dave
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SaveTheNight
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #1 on: May 24th, 2005, 11:33pm » |
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Hi Dave .. some did and some didn't ... in 99% of cases though the red key had disapeared by that year .... regards ... STN
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sad_eyes
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #2 on: May 25th, 2005, 9:53am » |
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Thanks for that STN.
Dave
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geraghtyg
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #3 on: May 25th, 2005, 1:02pm » |
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Of course I would have to be different. I have an April 98 manufactured car and I have the red master key. I must be one of the 1%
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Cosray
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #4 on: Aug 4th, 2005, 9:56pm » |
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Hi, my brandnew July '98 Scorpio Cosworth (last car of just 50 for Holland at the time) came with just three identical black keys with the small red Pats inserts.
I just had a new completely RED masterkey remade by the local dealer for my '95 Cosworth.
It was made in addition to its 2 existing slim black with RED insert keys that I had off the previous owner. Half an hour local job, cost € 50 and worth it.
HTH,
Ray
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WAYNE
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #5 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 9:27am » |
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Hi
Mines a May 98, and mines got red key x1, Black key x2,Wallet key x1.hth
wayne
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proberjohn
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #6 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 9:15pm » |
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My April '98 has PATS II which does not have a master key.
I only had one chipped key so got a couple more done and should now be able to do my own (in theory anyway).
John B.
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Partsman
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #7 on: Aug 19th, 2005, 3:40pm » |
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Where do I start? Up to 98 1/4 model year a three key system was used - 1 (red) master key and at least one other key for normal use. After that a two key system was used. This needs at least 3 keys as you need 2 to programme any new ones. If you only have 2 and loose one its off to your local Ford dealer to have the system reprogrammed with WDS. I think the 98 1/4 model came out 11/97 when Scorps were facelifted - better front bumper, less chrome etc.
The 2 & 3 key system relates to what FMC supplied when the vehicle was new, not the amount of keys you should really have to avoid costly reprogramming.
In the early 3 key system the master key does not have to be red - all the chips are the same. Its just an easy way of telling which one is the master one when you really need it
As long as yours is a 98 build facelift model you should be OK but it would be worth getting a third key cut and programming it while you've still got 2 keys.
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It's a rotten job but someones got to supply parts for them !!
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Partsman
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Re: Red Master Key
« Reply #8 on: Aug 19th, 2005, 5:13pm » |
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Update to earlier posting. Although the 3 key system will work with 1 or 2 keys the system has to have at least 3 keys programmed into it at sometime in the past. You don't have to have them all though.
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It's a rotten job but someones got to supply parts for them !!
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