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Lazer blue headlights
« on: Oct 20th, 2005, 8:23am »
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Has anyone got any recommendations about changing the headlights to those fancy blue/white lamps as opposed to the normal yellow/white lamps?
 
I brought a pair of supposedly 'lazer blue' lamps from Halfords which don't appear to be any different from the originals....
 
I've also seen those "super bright xenon lamps" advertised on e-bay...I don't believe the hype though....
 
Any advice?
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #1 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 8:34am »
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I have tried many different bulb types to try & improve on the very poor performance of the scorp h/lamps, including some of the xennon bulbs in 55 & 100w, small improvements were made with seperate aux relays to each h/lamp, additional earths to the bulb holders, best bulbs to date are Lucas rally blue, I know they are not for road use as they are 100w, but it brings the h/lamps up to what I think is the min acceptable, I do a lot of night driving on unlit country roads, even so they arent even close to the lights on my other car (Rover 827) even if I use standard bulbs in that, in the old days I would just bolt on a pair of super oscars.
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #2 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 9:18am »
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You could go the whole hog and get a set of proper xenon lamps, ballasts etc. but expect to pay at least £150 for a decent set
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #3 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 11:21am »
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hi there
 
i use these ones
 
as i said in the past, the biggest lose of light output to the road is worn lenses. if you ever had to drive with one new and one worn lens, you would see want i mean!
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #4 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 2:02pm »
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Can   lenses  wear ?    Is  it  not  a  dingy   reflector  that  dulls  the light output ?
 
   I find  that whatever bulb you put in , whether they are advertised as " 50% more light "  or " SuperBright  Xenon ,  they   are  still only rated at  55 watts,  which aligned with the inferior  H1   bulb size     is   a   pretty  poor   combination.  Dipped  beam  on  country  roads  can be   rather  hairy.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 2:31pm »
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hi mr floopy
 
the lens is the glass part. all the grit, flys, etc all scratch the glass, a bit like a pair of glasses. when they are all scratched, you can't see very well. same thing, really. it's much easier to see when comparing new for old.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 3:51pm »
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i tried just about every bulb going including the 100w ones (did quickly take these out though because of the risk of the wiring melting !!!),i now run the halfords super xenon white ones,i do however agree with scorpio_ man that the lenses can make a BIG difference,i replaced the bulbs when i still had the old pre facelift lenses in,and to be honest could only see a small improvement,however since changing the lenes as well to the newer facelift ones,you really do notice the difference,so in my opinion,for the sake of about £90.00 you could have 2 new lenses and the brighter bulbs as well...................
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 11:08am »
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trying out different bulbs on my scorp i found that changing the dipped bulbs to 100w made not much different, but changing the full beam bulbs to 100w items they made quite a big difference. The biggest difference was when last week i fitted a pair of 9inch Hella long range spotlights to my grill, even with 55w bulbs you can see a mile ahead, currently trying to track down some 130w bulbs for a little bit more power  Smiley  will see how good they during my rally tonight...
 
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 2:25pm »
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130 watt!    Am I right in thinking that the wiring  is designed for a certain  bulb wattage   and any  upgrading  of wattage can  overheat  the wiring?
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 2:36pm »
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yes...... Shocked
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #10 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 3:00pm »
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Oh dear, this thread seems to going the wrong way....
 
I don't want to increase the wattage of the existing system....previous threads will spell out the dangers to anyone considering this....I don't think Scorpio electrics respond well to tinkering!!
 
But, I do like the look of those blue/white lights that BMW/Lexus/Merc have at the moment...even saw a Nissan Primera with them!
 
Are they a totally different type of light fitment or can we replace bulbs like for like?
 
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #11 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 3:20pm »
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hi there
 
they are HID lamps. about $350 a set (i think!) not even sure if they fit or not Undecided
http://gohid.com/hid-automobile-table_2809.html
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 3:55pm »
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I've read other threads saying that the wiring is most probably not be up to it, so not to tempt fate the spotlights are wired up to a separate relay which is activated when the main beam is switched on, so hopefully no melting of wires. been running 100w dipped bulbs and 100w main beam for a while now and they seem to be ok.
 
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #13 on: Nov 18th, 2005, 8:25pm »
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I used to have a MK2 Granada with 8 130w spotlights on the front (boy racer days) Cheesy
had to use seperate wires and relays for them but it made a difference at night Wink
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #14 on: Nov 30th, 2005, 2:57pm »
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Just done some quick maths on the head light wattage.
Remembering that the formula is IxV=W, then W/V=I   I is the current drawn!
So with a 55 Watt bulb it is 4.5 amps and with a 100 Watt bulb it is 8.6 amps.
Any one know what the power feed wire to and from the headlight relay is rated at?
Unless they have used less than 10 amp rated wire for it I would think that the 100 watt bulbs probably won't cause a problem.
But don't quote me on it cos maybe the were real "Skinflints" on the headlight wires!
 
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Re: Lazer blue headlights
« Reply #15 on: Nov 30th, 2005, 9:34pm »
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I think the wires will be the last that burn, first thing will be the light swith that goes, and then the signaling stick .......if they dont the wires will eventualy melt away  Tongue
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