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Baz
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LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB can it work
« on: Feb 4th, 2006, 6:45pm » |
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Got first refusal on a 24v granada cosworth LPG system, how easy is it to transplant the system to my 98 24v?
Any advice would be good
Baz
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #1 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 8:09pm » |
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hi barry
do you know what type/make it is? will you be doing the swap yourself?
these guy's are good....http://www.autogas2000.co.uk/
hth
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #2 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 8:21pm » |
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Andrew, quote from the guy selling the LPG system
"autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy." "autogas world wide ltd,pentrepoeth road, bassaleg newport np10-8rr that is the address of the place that my car was converted and the lads there would sort you out with the manual if u r stuck. once again andy."
The tank is the cylindrical stako 75 litre one that fits in the wheel well
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #3 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:11pm » |
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hi barry
i only know of one diy 24v conversion (thunderchild). i think it's straight forward enough, just a fair bit of work. the basic kit is the same, afaik. you would need to make sure you had everything. you need a test as well.
how's the price. fitted kits are about £1700. 
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #4 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:24pm » |
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200 quid!! so not too bad a bargain methinks. If I have problems, it can go back onto EBay!!
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #5 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:33pm » |
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If it ran a BOA O.K then it will be O.K on a BOB.
All about getting enough gas into the engine, think of it like a carb, too small & you will get flat spots & a restricted top end.
If you fitted a 2.0L kit then it would need uprating for a 24V & so on.
Very good price that & if you want to sell it on let me know 
Get the manual for the kit if you can, also you will have to get a certificate to say you have installed it proper, that is the hard part 
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #6 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:34pm » |
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and how does one get the certificate then Dave??
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #7 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:45pm » |
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Well your surpost to take it to a registered fitter, they check it over & say it's O.K hopefully.
Trouble is most will not as they don't like too O.K stuff they have not done & others charge alot. They got you the b****rs 
You will have trouble getting insurance with out one.
It's worth it Baz, my Dad has 2 LPG cars now.
Him & his mate go fishing in a 2.0L Estate as it is alot cheaper on fuel than his mates 1.0 metro
A tip is to get a big LPG tank & have it delivered as heating fuel.
Can't remember exactly the costs but it's less than 32p a litre.
Mega cheap motoring.
Just a thought Baz ask the guy for his old one, sometime they don't put the reg of the car on it just the kit name & fitter.
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #8 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:47pm » |
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I suppose I could fit it and then take it somewhere on the prtence that I bought it like that without a cretificate! Did u fit urs urself?
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #9 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:47pm » |
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How do you get it out the big tank?
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #10 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:54pm » |
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I know he has the certificate that came from autogas when they installed it
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #11 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:54pm » |
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Same way as you would fill a forklift, with a special electric pump.
Infact it is just the same as filling up at a garage just cheaper.
Get the tank & pumps from farm sales not ebay. Ebay costs alot as everyone is after them.
Farm sales well we bought it all for £50.
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #12 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 9:55pm » |
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Make sure you get the certificate Baz.
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #13 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:04pm » |
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Oh & one last thing Baz you will loose abit of power on gas.
A tip here is to remove the CATs & you will be almost @ the same power again.
An M.O.T tester will test the car on what ever it is running on @ the time of test.
On LPG a car will sail through the emissions, infact alot of testers didn't even bother testing them until this new computor system came in
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #14 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:14pm » |
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My mate is the one who does my MOT's and it is his garage wher I will be fitting most of the gas kit if it comes off! do I need to drill manifolds or anything to fit this thing? Cos I can get hold of spare ones and other bits before I start messing mine up!
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #15 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:32pm » |
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hi barry
yes, both manifolds (if the 24v has 2 ) will need drilled and tapped.
why is it available? are you getting the other car as well? you could then just swap bit by bit.
btw, re the power drop. you can get the newer systems tuned to fix that problem, does use a wee bit more gas.
oh, use an induction kit. it helps.
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/lpg2.3_2.htm
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #16 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:38pm » |
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Manifolds, We talking intake here?
Depends what system your buying Baz.
Take a look at these.
   
Not sure why the last thumb don't show but X is another page
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #17 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:44pm » |
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Yeah Scorpio man the new systems work very well infact alot of people will tell you that the engine will run much better on Gas than petrol.
Sure there is some LPG fitters on here who know more about this then I do
Power loss I think is to do with the high octane of LPG (100+) Basically it burns slower so a engine looses some of the power as it's set up for petrol that burns faster.
If you played about with the timing maybe you could get the power back?
Not 100% sure on this.
When you go back to petrol you will have a problem thow 
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #18 on: Feb 4th, 2006, 10:58pm » |
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yeh, the Sequential is the one to have, but my etagas is not bad.
i've had it 2 1/2 years now. cheap, cheap, cheap!
this is it...http://www.tartariniauto.it/products.php
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Re: LPG System from a BOA engine to a BOB ca
« Reply #19 on: Feb 5th, 2006, 12:01am » |
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Dave,
do you run your twin turbo cossie on gas?
Russ
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