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Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« on: Jul 16th, 2006, 6:17pm »
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I'm going to have a crack at replacement   of  N/S  rear wheel  bearing,  a few  questions:
 
 What size is the big nut ?  
 
 Is   it  a  clockwise  untighten  or  just  normal ?
 
Will I need a puller to remove old bearing from carrier ?
 
  Will I need a press to install new one ?
 
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #1 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 6:33pm »
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I can't remember the size of the hub nut, but I remember the N/S undoes clockwise.
The bearings are packed on pretty tight so a puller to remove them & a press to put them back on would be a good idea. But if you have plenty of time on your hands you could put the whole hub (with bearings) & the new bearings in the freezer overnight. By the morning they should have contracted enough to be able to tap the old bearings off & to tap the new bearings on. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 7:13pm »
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http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/rhubs.htm  http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/suspension/RWheelBearings.pdf
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/suspension/RHubAssembly.pdf
hub nut is 32mm (mines are still original fit,see tommy34 post Roll Eyes)
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #3 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 11:00pm »
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Just remember, when you put it all back together the hub nut has to tighter than tight, i.e. large breaker bar & a scaffold pole Grin
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #4 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 1:30am »
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on Jul 16th, 2006, 7:13pm, Meg wrote:
hub nut is 32mm

is it not 41mm, same as sierra?
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #5 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 6:29am »
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I think you could both be right !. When I changed mine the one fitted was 32mm but the replacement is 41mm. The best advice is (a) use a proper 'wind back'tool to retract the piston. It does NOT just push back. (b) Be sure to fully tighten the nut as said AND then check it again after a couple of hundred miles. The torque setting is 200ft/lbs and this is way beyond the average DIY torque wrench. This thread may assist.http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action= display;num=1145217961;start=7#7
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #6 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 8:41am »
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The NEARSIDE rear Wheel bearing loosens ANTICLOCKWISE. the hub nuts on the rear wheel bearing on the scorpio are NOT left and right handed...  
 
On the nearside the nut always has a tendancy to undo which is why the use of STRONG thread lock is recommended and 200 ft/lb torque.
 
recheck after a few miles.
 
And the nut size is 32mm
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 9:53am »
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Thanks  for  all   the  info.
 
Since the hot weather started  I've  noticed    a  speed related   squeak  from  the    N/S   rear  end    and   although   the  raised  wheel  is  rock  solid   and  free   to  turn   I'm  suspecting  the   infamous  rear   bearings .  I'm  eliminating    the  O/S    one  coz  it  was replaced a   few  months    ago.  
 
 They are the original  fitments,   so  at  89K    I suppose   they  are  due  for  
  replacement.
 
 So  apart   from  the   propshaft   bearing  or   UJ's     ( unlikely )    it's  the  only    
  culprit   to   blame  for the  squeak.
 
    I've  ordered   the   bits,  the only  problem  is  I ain't   got  a   big   socket  or  
    a    long  enough   socket   bar  extension. Cry
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #8 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 2:48pm »
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  Sad   I've had to admit defeat.
 
    After 3 hours in  the  blazing sun  I   couldn't   get the  bearing cage   or  the hub  carrier  off.  
 
    Firstly   I   mangled   the  bottom  2   bearing cage securing  bolts   ( I  must've  been  using  a  worn  13mm socket  )     Then,   I thought  I might be able  to just  replace  the  hub carrier, so,    after spending a tenner   on a hub  puller,   I couldn't   even   get    that  off. Undecided
 
     I have to say though, even  if I had succeeded in getting the  cage off ,  I doubt  that I would have got that hub  off,    it  was  sure   stuck  on    real   tight. Cry
 
      So,   like Shackleton,  better  to turn back and    and live ,   than   to   go on   and   die    ( summat like that anyway )    I   put  it  all   back together   again   and   if   the   noise  gets  any   worse  I'll  get  a   professional   to  do it.  
 
 ( although he  won't  thank  me  for  the   mangled  bolts ) Kiss
 
  Now   I    think   I   deserve   a   long    cool    Lager Roll Eyes
       
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #9 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 3:06pm »
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Did you drown it all in WD40? When i did mine i jacked it up and drowned all the bolts in WD, re-applying every couple of hours. I did this the day before i actually replaced them (seeing as the car wasn't going anywhere). Still managed to mangle a couple of the carrier bolts and had to hacksaw off 1 of the calliper bolts and then knock the thread round with a cold chisel.
 
To prevent further mangling i used a half inch socket, worked a treat. And a gentle tap from a 'persuader' loosened up the hub and freeing it from the splines Smiley
 
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #10 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 4:17pm »
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You should get a spanner on them bolts & tap them with a hammer to loosen them off.
Most times you don't even need WD40.
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #11 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 2:06am »
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Quality sockets, a good breaker bar & a strong right leg should have got it off Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 9:35am »
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   After   a   troll through   the   interweb  thingy,   I  found  special  bolt  grip  
 
   sockets  designed   to   remove  rounded    bolts .  
 
     Or   I    could    
 
    just  hacksaw   the  last   bolt  head   off ,  remove the  bearing  cage,  and    
 
    there     should   be   enough   of  the   bolt  shank    showing    to    remove  
 
    with  pliers.    
 
         I wish  I   had   thought    of  that   yesterday   when  the  
 
     the    thing   was   in   bits Huh  
 
     It's  the  heat ,   it   fries    your   brain.
 
     I'll    give    it   another    go   when   the   weather  gets  cooler .  
 
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Re: Rear  Wheel  Bearing
« Reply #13 on: Jul 22nd, 2006, 5:58pm »
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i did the rear wheel bearing on my 2.9 scorpio the nut size that came off was 32mm the new one that came in new kit was a 40 mm
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