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mazzy_j
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Electric rear seat
« on: Jul 18th, 2006, 11:32am » |
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Hi all, i'm sure someone on here has done it before but how easy is it to fit the electric rear seat adjustable motors from the old granada into the scorpio?
Matt
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #1 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 11:55am » |
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baz is the man you need to speak to 
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Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #2 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 12:35pm » |
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A real doddle to do. I have fitted it to two scorpios now. All you need to do is make sure you have everything from the old Granada. The motors, cover trims, switch and cover and the wiring loom. Then all that is needed is to identify the wires feeding the seat motors for the front motors and use these as the source of power as they did on the Granadas
I will post some piccys later
Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 12:44pm » |
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Thanks  I was 99% sure it was you who had done it before, just couldn't find any old posts.
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Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #4 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 12:53pm » |
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Here you go.
Remove the trim from behind the seat and then remove the fixed seat bolt and the frame it sits in. This is held in with screws at the back and the same screw holes fit the motor housing. Do not at this stage, cut the leather on the bolster.
These were taken when I did the ones on my 1998 red facelift a few years ago
Route the wiring loom in from the switch position and connect up to the motor
The wiring then needs to be run through the wiring channels to the front seat positions. After identifying the wiring to the front seat motors, strip some insulation back off the existing wiring and solder the new wiring to it and then tape up securely.
The switch can then be mounted in the panel. This is my Scorpio one and as you can see it has the template already on the back, showing that the panels are the same. I got the ones from the Granada with the switch already in place.
Once all of the connections have been made, cut the leather of the bolster cushion as shown. This allows the bolt to travel back and forth . Only cut as shown and about 1 or 2mm bigger than the diameter of the bolt. Anymore will be seen
Fit the trim panel for that factory fitted look!!
Test the seat and it should recline like this!
Repeat the above for the other side.
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #5 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 1:21pm » |
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Top man Baz 
The piccies havn't shown up though 
Matt
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #6 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 5:54pm » |
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Better now?
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #7 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 10:04pm » |
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Nice one, i have a dead granada & had thought about doing this too,so thats more work this weekend now i know it can be done
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Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #8 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 10:57pm » |
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Just one thing, on one of the pictures, you can see that mine has the side airbags. If yours has the same sticker on the side of each front seat, make sure the battery is disconnected for at least 15 minutes before you start proding under the seat wiring!!
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Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #10 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 5:54pm » |
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Matt,
it looks like you will need the wiring loom from the switches to the front seats and a few screw covers etc. I will see what I can find
Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #11 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 8:39am » |
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I was having a chat with Ultima_Bloke at the essex meet yesterday and he said i might have clearance problems with regards to the parcel shelf. Did you have any similar problems with yours at all?
Matt
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #12 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 9:40am » |
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No.....if you look at the parcel shelf, the bottom of it has a strip of material of about 1" in depth and it is not as deep as it looks. The seat just pushes it out of the way. Don't forget that these were the same bodyshell (with a few slight modifications) as the granada anyway! There are no clearance issues at all and he is just jealous and trying to put you off!!!
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #13 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 10:10am » |
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Hi Baz
Thanks for the pic’s, spurred me into getting on with this mod,
Got some motors on ebay last night – don’t think it includes the trim panels, but I expect I can make something up.
Just removed the fixed seat bolt to check seat goes back – no problem, except s**s law dictates the luggage protector I fitted around the boot hinges will need modifying.
Cheers, let you know how I get on.
Dave
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #14 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 11:10am » |
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Dave,
if you need trim panels, let me know. I think I may have some spares
Drop me a pm with your address
Baz
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #15 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 12:43pm » |
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That looks a great mod! Time for a trip round the scrappys me thinks 
Pete
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #16 on: Jul 20th, 2006, 1:08pm » |
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Quote:Dave,
if you need trim panels, let me know. I think I may have some spares
Drop me a pm with your address
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Thanks Baz
I'll see what turns up with the motors & let you know if I need them (I asked the guy if he had them as not shown on the ebay picture).
Dave
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #17 on: Jul 26th, 2006, 1:40am » |
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Hi Baz,
No trim panels with motors have sent you a pm.
Fitted the motors today, worked fine hot wired. I need to make up the harness. Did you connect straight from the switches, or should it have relays?
If anyone’s doing this mod, you’ll need a longer front bolt with a smaller head for each side – I used a couple of M8x40mm allen bolts.
Dave
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #18 on: Jul 26th, 2006, 8:26am » |
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I'm still waiting for mine to turn up the wife of the chap who was selling them e-mailed me to say he had shattered his ankle so couldn't get down to his lock-up so get them.
Matt
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Re: Electric rear seat
« Reply #19 on: Jul 26th, 2006, 9:02am » |
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on Jul 26th, 2006, 8:26am, mazzy_j wrote:I'm still waiting for mine to turn up
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That's annoying, but worth the wait.
You'll see what I mean about the bolts, when you get the motors - just make sure you've got some before you start as the 2 on the car will be too short.
Dave
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