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Alarm fitted or not?
« on: Oct 16th, 2006, 10:00pm »
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2.9 12v late 1995 Ultima and I am trying to work out whether or not an alarm is fitted.
 
It has the bonnet contact in a sort of large dish. I can't see any cabin internal motion sensors, I've tried holding the above contact down, locking it, waiting then releasing the contact to trigger it. I've tried locking by turning to unlock briefly, then forward to lock.
 
Where would I look for the alarm noise maker and the alarm control box?
 
note - I'm still trying to get hold of a remote keyfob, if this is the thing which is needed to arm the alarm.
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 16th, 2006, 10:03pm »
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The alarm horn is behind your battery.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 16th, 2006, 10:32pm »
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on Oct 16th, 2006, 10:03pm, Spannerdemon wrote:
The alarm horn is behind your battery.  Wink

 
I've just had a look and yes there it is, as is the alarm module in the upper glove box (I think) -too dark to see much.  
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Re: Alarm fitted or not?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 7:57am »
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Try reading THIS re the sensor locations.
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Re: Alarm fitted or not?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 9:35am »
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   Lift the bonnet up, lock  the car  with key or remote, check that the little red light  on top of dash is flashing then  depress the bonnet switch a few times, the alarm should go off.
 
 If not,   check that the previous owner  hasn't  disconnected  the alarm horn     ( indicating  probs  with   the  alarm  in  the  past ).
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on Oct 17th, 2006, 9:35am, mr._floppy wrote:
   Lift the bonnet up, lock  the car  with key or remote, check that the little red light  on top of dash is flashing then  depress the bonnet switch a few times, the alarm should go off.

 
The light didn't flash at all when I got it, but it works now (the light that is). It still doesn't light up when I lock it, which rather suggests all is not well with the alarm.
 
Previous owner suggests that it did work, in fact it triggered quite regularly, but he also said the cruise control was working, that its fuel consumption was reasonable and that the tick over was spot on - so I'm not quite sure whether to believe that the alarm  worked.
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 19th, 2006, 12:38am »
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I am slowly arriving at the conclusion that the alarm control module is the unit with three multi-plugs, accessible by removing the glove box lid, which I understand also operates door locks. This despite the Ford TIS hinting that this is the multiplex control module unit linking into the (assumed) separate alarm module.
 
Now supposing I could find a replacement, does this module also control the PATS (the ignition key recognition system)? If it did, it migght become a little complex without the original red key for the scappy obtained replacement module.
 
Apologies for rambling on, but I'm trying to get my head around what does what in this motor - there does not seem to be a TIS on the site which helps define indivual module function or help identify which unit is which and where it is located precisely.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 19th, 2006, 8:43pm »
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on Oct 19th, 2006, 12:38am, harry.m1byt wrote:
Apologies for rambling on, but I'm trying to get my head around what does what in this motor - there does not seem to be a TIS on the site which helps define indivual module function or help identify which unit is which and where it is located precisely.

 
The information is coming together slowly (as is the car).
 
What I have done this evening is completely disconnect that module behing the glove box with the 3x multi-plugs. It is marked with a (radio) licence free sticker, therefore it is the receiver for the key fob. The electric windows and central locking stopped working, but the PATS ignition key recognition system still functioned and I was still able to sucessfully start the car. So it seems likely I could test swap the module with a scrap yard one,  without running into key problems.  
 
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