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harry.m1byt
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Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« on: Nov 20th, 2006, 10:33pm » |
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On Sunday I picked up a CCM from a scrapped P reg Scorp. The CCM is dated month(?) 1996 and I have just tried it in my Aug 1995 Ultima 2.9 12v auto, which annoying didn't flash the indicator to confirm it was locked when using the remote.
After plugging it in, the remote would not work so I had to reprogram it (but I had the battery out yesterday to install a caravan supply).
Pressing lock once caused it to lock, pressing it a second time caused it to double lock and then there was a bit of delay before THE LIGHTS FLASHED briefly twice. No flash on unlock and no flash on single locking, but it flashes. The delay to flash seems much less, if I simply press the lock button twice initially, where upon it double locks - before, due to the lack of feedback I was struggling to know just what it was doing.
I checked the foot well, puddle lights and global open/close and they do still work with the '96 CCM anything else which might need to be checked?
Note: I have copied the above both in the original (Problems) thread as well as starting a new thread - as the above probably has wider interest.
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #1 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 1:12am » |
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The process you describe is the only time that the Scorp normally gives a flashing indicator acknowledgement of a locking or unlocking manoeuvre, it only does it on double locking ( although I've been unable to replicate it on my Scorpio ).
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #2 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 6:44pm » |
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does anyone know what the CCM does exactly 
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #3 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 7:30pm » |
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on Nov 21st, 2006, 6:44pm, wickedteen wrote:| does anyone know what the CCM does exactly |
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As near as I have been able to work out:-
It is the alarm system, getting input from the doors, boot and bonnet. It is the receiver for the remote control. It also controls the door locks, mirrors, windows, electrically operated seat positioning and tells the timer module to switch the interior lights on.
It does these functions via a multiplex system - instead of individual wires to each item, data is transmitted back and forth down a single pair of wires strung around the entire car to enable it 'talk' to or address remote units located around the car - in the doors under the electric seat, in the boot lock etc..
The multi-plexing simply allows some very complex control functions to take place, without need for a massive bundle of wires and increasing the complexity of the car/reducing its reliability.
You push the close O/S/R window button on the drivers door, the button is connected to the multiplex unit in the door, which requests it of the CCM and the CCM then signals the multiplex unit in the O/S/R door to close the window.
Which all means the CCM can be reprogramed to flash the lights on lock quite easily, or just as easily open then close a window to acknowledge it has received a lock command from the remote.
I have had to do a lot of guessing to write the above and no doubt if any of it is wrong, then someone with more knowledge will correct me.
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #4 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 7:52pm » |
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Mine flashes on lock, double lock and I think on unlock..
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #5 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 8:32pm » |
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i thought they only flash on double lock
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #6 on: Nov 21st, 2006, 9:55pm » |
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Mine, with the replacement CCM, does only do a double flash when double locked. The original CCM didn't flash the indicators when the alarm was sounding, but I have just checked it and this one does flash them - makes it much easier to work out who's alarm has been triggered, when parked in a row of several cars.
I have also compared the two CCM's:-
The old one has only two licence free approval country stamps, where as the one which flashes has almost a full set of these stamps. These are printed in the square boxes on the white label stuck on the CCM. As stated earlier the one which flashes came out of a scrap '96 P reg and the CCM had a date stamped on it of '96, but I could not make out the month part. Getting one identical in looks might not necessarily guarantee that it will flash - the original owner of mine might well have taken it back to Ford, to have the CCM reprogramed to flash.
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #7 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 3:43am » |
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Just to verify......my 98 facelift flashes on double lock only.
My old 95 didnt flash at all
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #8 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:43am » |
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Hi,
Mine flashes same as TT's, on each press of the button, it all depends what is enabled or disabled. !!
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #9 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 12:39pm » |
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Maybe a wee business for you Baz? 
Programming all the extras
Maybe even on a mail order basis
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #10 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 3:12pm » |
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my nov 98 one only flashes on double lock,
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #11 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:22pm » |
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oh my god were are FLASHERS
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #12 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:53pm » |
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96 24v never used to flash on anything. Re-programmed by Ford, now 1 flash on unlock, 1 on lock, 2 on double lock and 1 on boot open 
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #13 on: Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:43pm » |
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Mine flashes.....beeps and opens all the windows with a few fancy fob button pushes.... amazing thing the flash on lock mod!!
I also got the one that leaves the lights on for 30 secs after you turn off the engine so you don't trip over the cat in the dark!!
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #14 on: Nov 23rd, 2006, 8:57am » |
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on Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:53pm, Dave wrote:| 96 24v never used to flash on anything. Re-programmed by Ford, now 1 flash on unlock, 1 on lock, 2 on double lock and 1 on boot open |
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Yup, thats exactly what i did to mine
I did notice other options, like Baz said, which I wasn't sure of.......
I think by some fancy button work on the remote, you can get the Global open / close to work as well, but I wasn't sure exactly what to enable and disable with the FDS as I'd only borrowed it ! ..........
Had a vision of pressing the unlock button twice and boom, sunroof flies out followed by two front ejector seats
Mind you could be useful if you look up your drive to see scum bag sitting in your car removing the stereo and satellite etc 
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #15 on: Nov 23rd, 2006, 5:45pm » |
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on Nov 23rd, 2006, 8:57am, Dave2302 wrote:
I think by some fancy button work on the remote, you can get the Global open / close to work as well, but I wasn't sure exactly what to enable and disable with the FDS as I'd only borrowed it ! ..........
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Anyone have access to an FDS in exhange for beer tokens in the W. Yorks area? Or could someone do this via the post, perhaps?
So where does the FDS plug in to make adjustments to the CCM's software?
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #16 on: Nov 23rd, 2006, 9:25pm » |
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Surely it would use the OBD socket behind the 'flap' at the top of the coin compartment wouldn't it?.HERE
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #17 on: Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:04pm » |
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on Nov 23rd, 2006, 9:25pm, Simmo wrote:| Surely it would use the OBD socket behind the 'flap' at the top of the coin compartment wouldn't it?.HERE |
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Perhaps, I just don't know and the details given of the pins of the socket are rather cryptic.
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #18 on: Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:34pm » |
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Baz has an FDS so lets hope he'll answer your question shortly. 
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Re: Flash (on lock) and CCModule
« Reply #19 on: Nov 25th, 2006, 11:24pm » |
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3 days later....... apologies for the delay been drinking a lot of beer lately!!
The FDS does indeed plug into the socket behind the flap in the coin box and can do all sorts of adjustments and tests. I have never really done too much with mine except allow the boot to be opened with the engine running. It is fixed to my garage wall with a load of stuff on it at the moment cos we are selling the house and all the spare stuff is in the garage!
What makes it worse is the garage is also full of rack mounted servers from an internet service providers that went a few weeks ago!
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