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Are all 24v's Cosworths
« on: Jan 4th, 2007, 7:19am » |
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Just ordered some cats from CATS DIRECT for my 24v ultima, prompt service. But wrong type. when I phoned them their guy informed me "ah, you must have the cosworth 24v?" I thought all 24v's were cosworth? He informed me Ford made a 24V. is he right 
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #1 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 7:35am » |
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hi there
maybe he's mixing the scorpio with the granada, but even then, both 24v engines are designed by cosworth (even the 2.3 16valve engine).
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #2 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 8:44am » |
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Maybe he looked at the 24v engine as fitted to the Probe/Galaxy.
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nice_1
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #3 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 9:09am » |
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Thanks, Chaps thats what I thought....I didn't want to get on my high horse about it as I wasn't 100 precent. on the facts. They will exchange but its more time, money and inconvenience. thanks again. 
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Tony_Bradley
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #4 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 11:14am » |
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Hi
If you want more performance and have a tame MOT station Cats Direct also a stright through downpipe !
Tony
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Baz
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #5 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 12:19pm » |
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Tony,
have you got the web address or number for cats direct? Mine has LPG on it so tends to run with very low emissions anyway so would be interested in some straight through pipes
Baz
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #7 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 3:16pm » |
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hi barry
cat bypass pipes make a bit of a difference, but you need a friendly MOT man as the cat (even if empty) needs to be on the car.
only other way is making them swappable. 
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TiberiuS
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #8 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 4:47pm » |
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Was speaking to a friend and he said that cats aren't a compulsory part of the MOT test though many people think they are; as long as the car is healthy it shouldn't have any trouble passing below the limit on emissions...I can't see how but he normally knows what he's talking about. The same thing is also mentioned on an engineering website in this country who supply custom exhausts for classic cars. Apparently the only time a CAT is compulsory is in some states in America where a visual inspection is made...they sell small cosmetic ones for that purpose.
I'm confused, wondered what you chaps thought
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #9 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 5:14pm » |
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I dont know for sure but i was under the impression that cars below a certain age had to have them "fitted" even if they were empty
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #10 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 9:18pm » |
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Its all here if you need to read up on it MOT
As I see it as long as it passes the emissions test it does not matter if a c atalyst is fitted or not, but read and make your own decision.
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #11 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 9:30pm » |
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hi there
i go with stuart (highlander) on this one. the way it was told to me by one MOT Tester, it had to be seen to be there.
that's one of the reasons why i use a different one now.
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #12 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 9:55pm » |
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hi there
i've looked at that site you posted snoppy. a few questions were asked about having cats fitted. they say the car only need to meet the emission levels for a pass, but i'm sure i read a MOT manual stating you need to see it fitted on the car.
anyone a MOT tester? Martin?
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Tony_Bradley
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #13 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 9:56pm » |
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Hi all
well with a Cossie 24v with the engine undertrays how can they see the cats ?
Don't think they are viewable are they ?
Best Regards
Tony
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #14 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 10:01pm » |
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hi there
the 'belly plate' only covers the engine. exhaust run down the side(s).
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #15 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 10:06pm » |
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HI all
Cut and Paste from Cats Direct with their product Codes.....
FORD SCORPIO 2.0i 16v 10/94-10/97 90372 £78.96 + vat 60372 £172.02 + vat
FORD SCORPIO 2.0i 8v 10/94-10/97 90372 £78.96 + vat 60372 £172.02 + vat
FORD SCORPIO 2.3i 16v 5/96-7/98 90372 £78.96 + vat 60372 £172.02 + vat
FORD SCORPIO 2.9i 12v 1/95-2/99 90338 £80.90 + vat 60338 £135.42 + vat
FORD SCORPIO 2.9i 24v Cosworth 1/95-2/99 (nearside) 90327 £56.75 + vat 60327 £191.04 + vat
FORD SCORPIO 2.9i 24v Cosworth 1/95-2/99 (offside) 90285 £57.36 + vat 60285 £191.04 + vat
I think you have to phone them for straight through pipes but they make them with a Lambda sensor mount to feed the ECU
Hope this helps
Tony
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #16 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 10:10pm » |
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Hi
On my cossie there are two plates that go all the way across .... we tries to get at the manifold/cat connection from underneath and couldn't even see it
Tony
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #17 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 10:28pm » |
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Re cats: my other V6 (Probe) has passed 2 MOT's with a decat pipe fitted. As far as I know, if it passes the emissions, then it doesn't need one. However, if it fails, then a cat must be fitted before retest. Granted I have an early car with pre cats in down pipe, but know of later models without the precats that pass (just) with a decat pipe.
Just wish er indoors would let me start on the Scorpio 
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #18 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 10:39pm » |
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Here's the site I was talking about, if you read through it says that a cat isn't a compulsory part of the UK MOT and as long as the car is healthy enough it shouldn't put out more emissions than the legal limit for the year of production. So there's a bit of a loophole there about the allowance for the year of production, mabye later cars with cats have a lower allowance than older ones?
And I guess then you get to the problem that some members have had where the car goes borderline on emissions where a cat disintegrates...or is this down to another factor?
There's a lot of talk over on the Jag forums about fitting straight through pipes and getting an extra 20-30bhp out of the standard 4 litre, I'm just curious really...been told it's legal, and told it's not...
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Re: Are all 24v's Cosworths
« Reply #19 on: Jan 5th, 2007, 10:57am » |
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on Jan 4th, 2007, 10:28pm, Pam and John wrote:Re cats: my other V6 (Probe) has passed 2 MOT's with a decat pipe fitted. As far as I know, if it passes the emissions, then it doesn't need one. However, if it fails, then a cat must be fitted before retest. Granted I have an early car with pre cats in down pipe, but know of later models without the precats that pass (just) with a decat pipe.
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That is not what I have been told by two separate MOT testing stations. They say,..."if the car was manufactured with a CAT then it must have a CAT fitted for the MOT test. With the new computerised MOT testing, they have to put the VIN in, this will show whether the car should have a CAT or not."
One guy was very informative about the whole subject when I spoke to him, he said that no car will pass emissions test if you have removed the CAT's when the MOT computer is testing for the same vehicle with CAT's.
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