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towbar fitting(wot again)
« on: Mar 31st, 2007, 3:55pm »
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tried to fit tow bar this morning, bumper came off no probs, removed no.plate lights and rev. sensors, tow bar came off my old granada(91) and looking at witter web site it is the same bar that fits the dec 98 scorpio ultima. i used the fitting guide that was kindly explained on this web site. back end fits as it should but the front fitting to the diff support is completely different as the one on my car.  dec 98 cosworth ultima does not have a "u" shaped mounting bracket to  fit the front mounting to,mine has a central bolt coming down from the chassis to a "T" piece with two bolts supporting the diff on big rubber mounts . looking up under the car i can see the four bolts that would hold the diff in place but they are doing nothing , there is nothing bolted to them . these bolts are totally inaccessable to the fitting supplied with the tow bar . is there another type of front mount or has my car got something different on it like a limited slip diff or summat(wouldn,t have thought so). any advice please
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #1 on: Mar 31st, 2007, 4:34pm »
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It's NOT the same towbar. The F59 does NOT fit the Scorpio. Neither does their F49+!!
 
Witter got this wrong, and you aren't the first to find the problem. I emailed them about it when fitting mine, but they are still adamant that their bar fits......it doesn't!! I should know, I've got the fecking car!!
 
I had a towbar from my old Granada 2.4i which I kept. No way would it fit my Scorpio, for exactly the reasons you state. We ended up picking up a proper bar off Ebay (Towsure brand new).
 
You need a proper Scorpio Towbar unfortunately. maybe a member has one for sale, or is scrapping a car with one on?
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #2 on: Mar 31st, 2007, 6:44pm »
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Agree
 
Yes thats right and when I fitted mine I had to drop the diff slightly to get the fitting bolted in cos it's a bit tight up there.... Sad  
 
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #3 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 9:52am »
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thanks guys ,knew summat wasn,t right,i actually called in to my local witter supplier and like you say , he said the F59 bar does fit the scorp.how wrong is he? i looked at the pieces supplied with the kit with him and pointed out that the front fitting doesn,t work, he was adamant it would!!
 
next question,,,,has any one out there got one to fit a scorp??
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #4 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 11:35am »
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on Apr 1st, 2007, 9:52am, big_neil wrote:

 
next question,,,,has any one out there got one to fit a scorp??

 
Mine was fitted when I bought it and freshly installed. It clamps either side of the main chassis members and somewhere in the centre, but completely lacks the centre bar which goes forward to the diff under the fuel tank.  I rather fancy it is a Ford supplied and fitted one.
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #5 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 12:12pm »
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Try this link there are some on ebay.Roy.
 
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #6 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 12:16pm »
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sounds similar to mine harry, fits either side on the chassis members with extra brackets and intriguing specialised bolts that go through 'splines' inside the chassis members, it also adds about 18 inches to the length of the bumper brackets and made removing the bumper an absolute nightmare when i replaced it last summer. looking at my scorps service history im inclined to think it was an extra fitted by ford as the first owner used the car for towing to spain and was very meticulous with servicing.
 
neil, sorry, i was going to leave it off the car and give it to someone who can use it, but decided not too as it gives the flimsy bumper some added protection.......
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #7 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 4:08pm »
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2 months ago had a firm come out and fit a towbar 4 me.Used to have a trailer for my motocross bikes but sold the  trailer recently(wifes sick of it in the way} so anyone who wants one at a good price its your....but u need to come get it and remove it coz im clueless like ive probably mentioned b4 Smiley
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Re: towbar fitting(wot again)
« Reply #8 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 4:09pm »
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oh btw its off a r reg 2.3 ultima Grin
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 1st, 2007, 4:45pm »
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wots that on your postings taliban, some kind of animal or is it one of them old davy crockett hats??(didn,t everyone have them when kids?).
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pmsl, it happens to be one of my cats rolling over for a tickle.
i put it up as it was a bit of a joke baz and me were having, i originally put up some fantasy art that had nearly bare b r e a s t s, baz as admin asked me to remove it, so instead i put up a  n a k e d  p u s s y Roll Eyes his names alfie.......
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