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cossie_al
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24V auto box belts slipping
« on: Jun 19th, 2007, 2:23pm » |
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Well heres my newest fault 
Upto about 30mph it would apeer that the belts are slipping in my auto box. feals just like a clutch slipping on a manual.
I have read that the belts can be tensioned when rebuilding the box but is it worth trying this on a box that has covered 152K?
The fluid has always been a healthy colour up untill I noticed the slipping. It has now started to go slightly brownish instead of its usual cherry red.
If it is worth trying to retension the belts can this be done with the box in situ or is it a box out job?
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #1 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 2:37pm » |
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The brake bands? They can be adjusted but it sounds like it may just be worn
Stick a second hand box in it. 
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #2 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 10:26pm » |
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Thanks Highlander,
Can they be adjusted with the box in place?
The mot is due soon so I will sea what that brings, if its a pass I will probably stick another box in.
If it fails then it will be a case of a long list in the parts for sale section 
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #3 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 10:33pm » |
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Not 100% sure but i think they can be got at while the box is still on the car, these are the bits on the side of the box.
Does it do it in first, second or both??
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #4 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 10:38pm » |
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I havnt noticed in second, Once its up to spead the kick down etc feals fine, or at least no different to what it has always been
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #5 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 10:42pm » |
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Just first then? i'm sure theres one adjuster for each gear so possibly you can get enough on it to keep it going for now
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #6 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 11:29am » |
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Okay Heres the latest,
Been under the car and tensioned the bands as described in the overhaul section on the site.
Now if I set off in drive it feals as though it goes up two gears then starts slipping.
Also if I set off in 1st its fine change up manualy to 2nd still fine, put it into drive starts slipping.
A mate has suggested this could be the torque converter
Got to admit this is where my knowledge and experience stops.
However, I have read that faulty engine loom can give problems with the torque converter.
Any suggestions warmly welcomed before I torch it 
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 7:54pm » |
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Al, I'm no expert but it sounds like worn bands
Give the MAF a look over too, maybe it could be playing up 
You need a good second opinion, you could get a good recon autobox fitted for far less than I (mug  ) did.
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #8 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 8:10pm » |
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Already checked and cleaned the maf mate, and the car is now in the cars for sale as spares or repair
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #9 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 8:31pm » |
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That bad mate?
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #10 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 8:51pm » |
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Fraid so mate,
Don't want to but I can't realy afford to do a recon gear box.
The only way would be if I could get hold of a real cheap doner car off ebay or somewhere.
So, its not likely but I will try to keap it
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #11 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 10:34pm » |
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Al, did you see this thread?
Might be worth getting in touch with Simon, see if he can help. Might be someone with a good autobox if you search around, I know it's a lot of money but it's a shame to let the car go for peanuts.
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #12 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 8:56am » |
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have spare box, I drove it, was ok.
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #13 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 9:15am » |
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Hi Martin,
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #14 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 3:30pm » |
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what really makes me smile and I say that tonque in cheek, is that I have a 24v autobox in the garage, complete with all pipework and torque from that 58000 mile scorpio I broke up, which he could have had, had he asked, for nowt !!! yes nowt, cos that's the kind of person I am. I will/try to help anyone in bother.........that's my problem actually, I am soft in that dept. I offered it to a member on here before but I think he scrapped the car instead
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin3;action=di splay;num=1159547910;start=0
I have a new found friend who pops round to my home regularly who bulids autoboxes in his sleep, he is well past retirment age and is still building boxes......he built my Rover SD1 box and it is absolutley spot on. He would have looked at the Als box before condeming it. Mind, he did crindge when I told him that peeps on this forum were casually advising to adjust the bands so the starting point would have been there.
But you live and learn and so unfortunatley on this occassion, I couldn't help.
no skin off my nose.
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #15 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 4:57pm » |
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If Thats the type of person you are why didnt you say you had one?
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #16 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 5:45pm » |
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #17 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 10:11pm » |
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Yep.
That's mackams for you.
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #18 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:02pm » |
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Dont you still have the car Al? maybe the gearbox is still available
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Re: 24V auto box belts slipping
« Reply #19 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 12:23am » |
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Al, what about the pressure diaphragm thinggy which sometimes causes problems? There was a post about it the other week, b****red if I can remember its proper name
Lovely car, surely good recon box is the way to go, cheaper than any Honda MPV...have you looked at the Honda yet?.
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