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Wadman
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Rear suspension
« on: Jul 9th, 2007, 5:21pm » |
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My car was given a full inspection by the RAC. In their report they recommend the bushes (triangular-shaped)in the rear suspension be replaced as they have 'collapsed'. One Ford garage want to replace the whole suspension for £400 each side. I am also told the old bushes can be 'pushed out' and new ones inserted. Can anyone tell me the Ford part number of the bushes and of any website which has illustrations of the rear suspension please.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #2 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 8:20pm » |
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Thanks, a big help.
Just to confirm, the bushes I'm looking for are "Rear Suspension Insulator", or am I wrong?
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #3 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 8:43pm » |
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First two pics on this page give an exploded view of the rear suspension, not sure which bushes you mean
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/suspension.htm
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #4 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 1:23pm » |
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I am in contact with the RC engineer who carried out the inspection. Like you, I am having problems identifying the item. However, the RAC engineer states the bushes are "rear suspension lower front outer bushes" sometimes called "the A-frame bushes". Are you any wiser, if so, which part number of the schemics on the website are the bushes in question.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #5 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 3:16pm » |
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If you go to a FMD and give them your registration no or vin they should be able to identify the parts fitted to your car and supply part no's, at the same time they can give price and availability.... I think it is item 2 on the rear suspention diagram abive... You don't however have to order the parts...
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #6 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 5:00pm » |
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In all seriousness I would'nt waste large wads of cash on summat that might not be needed.
It's an RAC inspection ( notoriously nitpicky and unrealistic ) not a MOT.
This bush, if it's failed, I'm sure will be picked up by the MOT tester.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #7 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 8:19pm » |
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 I had AA inspections done on two Jags a couple of years back. Not my idea, was done by a relative who did it in good faith. Both were picked to pieces, one being a mint B reg (20 years old so could be excused for not being perfect). The inspections are great so long as you don't read too much into them, most inspectors will have a negative bias as soon as they look at the age of the car. When I bought the Scorpio I went by intuition, ok it had a few things wrong but I didn't do badly, same with the Sport...just looked it and the paperwork over, checked the fluids and gave it a drive. It's an old car, it's not going to be perfect  .
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #9 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:19pm » |
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Appreciate all the help. The main idea in regard to the RAC inspection was to get an independent evaluation on a car that's done less than 34,000 miles. It's very comfortable car for me and the cost of a similar replacement is going to be £15/20K, an amount I cannot afford. Secondly, two garages have quoted £900 and £30 plus labour, on a repair to bushes they are not quite sure on. The first cost was to replace BOTH rear suspensions. I know the reaction is to take the 30 quid one, but are they talking about the right part.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #10 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 1:02am » |
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Are there any nasty noises coming from the rear when going over bumps or around corners etc...if not then I'd agree with what mr._floppy said....wait for an MOT before you decide to spend the cash, or book it in now for an early MOT & see what they say 
Seeing as it's done less than 34K, then I wouldn't think a rear bush would fail at such a low mileage
P.S....34K is a very low mileage for a Scorpio...are you sure it's genuine ?
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #11 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 7:51am » |
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Yep I'd take it somewhere for an MOT (without mentioning the bushes) you might find it passes
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #12 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 8:57am » |
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I have the problem (well not so much of a problem really) that the back end of my car is very low, I have suspected the rear bushes and spoke to the mot centre about it (pre MOT), he did agree that it appears low but said there was nothing showing concern with regards to the rear suspention, he added that it could be that there has been some strain on the springs and that they could be a little soft. He has been doing my MOT's for years now and I have every trust in his capability as an examiner.
I tend to agree that if you put it in for mot without saying anything you may be surprised... however like me I wouldn't dismiss a possible cure alltogether for the future. So long as the car handles ok.
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Just as an afterthought, as I have said before I tow an 18foot caravan with no problems except that it catches on humps etc occasionally.... 
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #13 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 9:30am » |
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The car passed an MOT AFTER the RAC inspection. It appears the bush is sitting on a 'pan' and whilst the car might occaisionally try to steer from the rear end, unless the bush totally disintergrates, it will pass an MOT. I am trying to deal with the 'repairs' the RAC felt were important, but all in one go, I don't want to go back again for repairs in 6months.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #14 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 10:28am » |
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on Jul 11th, 2007, 9:30am, Wadman wrote:| The car passed an MOT AFTER the RAC inspection |
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Whats the problem then?
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #15 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:34pm » |
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If the rear tyres are wearing evenly, and the wheels look OK looking from the rear of the car ( i.e. no huge amounts of Negative camber ) and there are no moans, squeals or clunks over rough ground then I would tend to leave it alone till more definite signs of a rear end problem become evident
34K miles ! 
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are there any lower mileage ones out there ?
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #16 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 10:51pm » |
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The problem is, the RAC 'highlighted' this before any other 'defect', so I take it seriously. They may be nitpicky but they are not a garage trying to drum up business, so why emphasise it. I think it's time to draw a close on the matter.
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Re: Rear suspension
« Reply #17 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 2:10pm » |
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With the advent of new technology in headlights, can my lights on my 1998 Ultima be similarly improved. I know the whole headlamp unit is expensive, I've just had to replace a hit-and-run incident, but I wondered about a simple bulb replacement.
Anybody??
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