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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #40 on: Sep 13th, 2008, 7:24pm » |
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no thats a strange one
the geard box part of the mt75 is just the square shaped lump at the back, the bellhousing on the diesel box i would assume is diffrent to the 2.3's.
later model 2.3's had the same ratio box as the diesels so there cant be that much diffrent
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #41 on: Sep 23rd, 2008, 11:44am » |
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you learn somthing every day.ther are right and left hand drive mt75 cable boxis.see ebay 200256473942.are the hydraulic boxis handid
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #42 on: Sep 23rd, 2008, 1:43pm » |
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Saw that one, I'm still after the MT75 bellhousing but everyone seems to want a million pounds for them!!
I know the week after I buy one someone will be chucking one out!! 
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #43 on: Nov 21st, 2008, 9:35pm » |
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Finally got myself a V6 MT75 box!!! 
just need the clutch now
Good timing too, I have gearbox wiring loom issues which make driving in the wet quite exciting when it suddenly decides it wants to be in second at 70mph 
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #44 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 1:11pm » |
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nice one mate, if found out that you cant use the cossie clutch and flywheel if you stick it on the end of the 4 ltr box, and since ive since found a 4ltr bottom end ive got my 2.9 flywheel and cossie clutch for sale 
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #45 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 1:39pm » |
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What clutch are you using for the 4.0?
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #46 on: Nov 24th, 2008, 6:46pm » |
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either a mustang or a ranger one, both need to be inported from statesamd thats clutch and flywheel as their bigger for the 4 ltr, but i have the latest possible block/crank you can use wich has an 8 botl crank, if you have or find a 6 bolt crank and block then the 2.9 bits should fit ok, just be a bit on the small side
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #47 on: Dec 26th, 2008, 10:03pm » |
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What year block have you got Matt??
I'm looking for a pre 96 one, is yours later than that?
Still the OHV?
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #48 on: Dec 27th, 2008, 4:58pm » |
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mine is a very early 97 block, right on the change over. its still OHV but has a slightly stronger block (thicker round the sump mountings) but uses the later type crank (8 bolt as used on sohc) its rare block as ford did this on the last of the OVH's to try and standardize some of the internals before the SOHC's were introduced
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #49 on: Dec 28th, 2008, 12:21am » |
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Ok, so if i stick to my pre 96 block i should still be able to use the cosworth clutch etc? didnt realise there was a later OHV, you learn something new every day
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #50 on: Dec 29th, 2008, 4:43pm » |
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Hi mate
yeah you can use the cossie/sierra bits on the 96 block, it all bolts together nicely
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #51 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 6:15pm » |
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Looking like a job for the springtime, the 24v is going off the road for some "work" I'm going to be a diesel driver again for a bit
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #52 on: Dec 31st, 2008, 11:33am » |
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hi highlander.take a look at wikipedia-cologne v6.-rebuliding the ford 4lt pushrod v6.tells you all about the block.head.crank and wen they wear used.hase eneyone tryed using the later(and much cheaepr) ohv-ohc block
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #53 on: Dec 31st, 2008, 3:23pm » |
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I was assured the SOHC engine was possible but a lot more difficult, im going the stick to the OHV
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #54 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 11:58am » |
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interesting thread this one
I'm considering doing a manual 2.9 conversion, but wanted to ask what engine management system you're considering using ?
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #55 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 5:40pm » |
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you can use the same engine management system 
the SOHC is possible, you have to use 2 left hand Heads i believe, turning the one the other way round so you can feed the rear chain on the sohc through it
funny my project is getting started in spring, just need to shift whats left of the diesel scorp then its break the tools out
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #56 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 5:56pm » |
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By the same, i trust you mean the ranger's management ? or the cossie one ?
If you plan to use the cossie EECV, how are you getting round the integrated gearbox controller on the ECU ? I should imagine it'll throw a major wobbler when it doesnt detect an auto box.
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #57 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 6:00pm » |
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no, you use the cossie's own, engine wise its just essentially a big 2.9, and as its a learning ecu soon adjusts to the bigger block
as for the box you just have to fool it into thinking the car is in park so the start inhibitor doesnt kick in
the headach in it is setting up a system so that if the car has cruise control, it turns it off if the clutch is dipped or it will just rev out. there are a few ways to do that but im looking at using the system on the break pedal and just paralleling it up
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #58 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 6:08pm » |
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Im aware that it was that easy with the old BOA conversion, but it used the semi electronic ALD4 unit (as fitted to the 12v). When the BOB unit appeared coupled to the EECV, im sure that the gearbox contoller was fully integrated into the ECU itself - thus just attempting to bypass it will thow up all sorts of other issues with the ECU expecting readings and values it wont get - a sure fire LOS recipe ?
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Re: Manual Cosworth?
« Reply #59 on: Jan 1st, 2009, 6:08pm » |
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Thinking about it, it should just be the same as when you disconnect the battery. you should just start it and just leave it to idel for 10mins while the ecu learns the setup again then drive it so it relearns the fueling
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