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Savvy
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Xenon Headlights
« on: Feb 13th, 2008, 9:39pm » |
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Given that the Scorpio has projector headlamps, they're ideal for a xenon conversion. Has anyone done this to a Scorpio?
I've done this to all my other cars I've owned including my current VX220 all of which have had projector lights and make such a drastic improvement.
Kits I've bought have all been from ebay for about £45 delivered and have worked brilliantly.
I'm probably going to do this in a couple of weeks so if anyone is interested, I'll do photo guide and post it on here.
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #1 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 10:25pm » |
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not me but others on here have, seem to remember quite a detailed account of it, where to put the ballast etc....
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #2 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 10:43pm » |
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I think that was Baz?.
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #3 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 10:48pm » |
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Welcome,
Take some photos and document it.
Anything that improves the lighting will be good news!
Geoff 
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #4 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 10:09am » |
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It was me... Geoff, you have seen them at my house!!
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #5 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 10:22am » |
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Hi Baz, pretty straight forward fit I'm assuming? Where did you mount the ballasts?
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #6 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 10:23pm » |
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You know I do seem to remember an unearthly glow on the horizon 
Incidentally the 2.0 litre is now street legal and Mot'd
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #7 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 9:19am » |
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To Savvy
To a total novice - what is the actual wording necessary to acquire a Xenon conversion. Ballast
Help
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #8 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 10:27am » |
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If you look at the small ads at the top of this page there are sites which should help you or try seraching for Xenon on Google or similar.
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Savvy
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #9 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 3:10pm » |
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Hi Wadman,
True xenon bulbs (not the "xenon look" bulbs from Halfords etc) work differently to normal halogen bulbs. Xenons have what's called an "arc" where light is produced between a cathode and anode, in halogen bulbs you'd have current passing through a filament until it glows and produces light.
To start a xenon bulb and maintain it's power, you need what's called a ballast. This ups voltage from 12v to around a whopping 23KV!
23kv is what's required to start the bulb, then you have anywhere between 4300kv to 15000kv to maintain it.
You may hear things such a colour temp. ie, 6000k, 8000k up to 15000k. This is where the voltage stabalises in the ballast, what this means to you though, is what colour the light produces. 6000k is a general white colour with a hint of blue, 15000k looks very very purple. Generally speaking, the higher the colour temp. the less lumens (light) produced.
The best and most colour to go for is 6000k, this is what you'll see on most cars that come with xenons as standard.
Fitting these kits is also quite easy, as long as you can access the back of the lights easy enough.
The bulbs have two sets of wires leading off them, one set for the ballast, simply plug in. Another set of spade connectors, a positive and negative lead. When you remove the original bulb from the car, you have to remove it from the bulb holder that it plugs into. On that bulb holder you'll have a postive slot and a negative slot. Simply plug in the negative spade connector into the negative slot of the bulb holder and same for the postive. Probably sounds a lot more complicated than it actually is!
Then it's a case of making it all look pretty. Slot the bulbs in, attach the ballast the strut or somewhere secure under the bonnet and job done.
I will be doing this in the coming weeks and I'll give a full run down of how to do it. For little money and ease of fitting, you get some really great results. Not only do they give you more light, but they look very nice.
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #10 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 3:49pm » |
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Blimey !!! Didnt realise it was that easy.Wish i had asked the question before spending money on uprated bulbs (Osram Nightbreaker). Although these have improved the light output dramatically,they dont look as cool as a proper HID conversion 
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Savvy
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #11 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 3:55pm » |
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I paid 1p for my last xenon kit off ebay. Bit steep on the old pnp though £38!!! - she has since upped her ebay price to around £45 delivered.
I'm assuming the bulbs in the Scorpio are H4?
Oh and BTW - you can do the conversion for side lights, dipped, main beam and even fogs lights! Gets a bit much though and only really worth doing for dipped.
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #12 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 5:03pm » |
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ive done it to!
the scorpios bulbs are h1 fitment
while your fitting the kit, strip the glass of the unit and give the inner lense a good clean, you wont believe how dirty it gets!
i fitted my ballest in the gap between the inner wing and outer wing,
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #13 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 9:22pm » |
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cheers matt.
anyone got any pics of the xenons fitted?
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #14 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 9:48am » |
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Does the dim dip work with these?
If not any problems with the MOT?
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #15 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 9:55am » |
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The level adjustment does work with these. It's just a different bulb in the cluster, still works and fits the same as any a normal bulb.
No problems with MoT's either
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #16 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 10:38am » |
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on Feb 27th, 2008, 9:55am, savvy wrote:The level adjustment does work with these. It's just a different bulb in the cluster, still works and fits the same as any a normal bulb.
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It’s position 1 on the light switch I’m asking about, (the dip beam comes on at low brightness as well as the side lights).
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #17 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 3:06pm » |
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no the dim dip doesn't work with the HID kit and will have to be disabled by pulling the fuse,
the dim dip works by supplying the bulb with a lower voltage so only dimly lights the bulb, with the HID kit, the lower voltage can damage the ballast and the arc tube in the light as it constantly trying to ignite but cant as there isnt enough power there to do it (the HID will just flicker)
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #18 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 3:52pm » |
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Thanks Matt, that's what I'd expected, so it's just a question of whether it's an MOT requirement. I'd read on some forums that people thought it would be OK & they'd passed an MOT - buy no definite answer.
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Re: Xenon Headlights
« Reply #19 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 4:39pm » |
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dim dip not part of MOT.
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