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2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« on: Apr 29th, 2008, 1:07pm » |
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Hi, Does anyone know if there is a donut on the front end of the 2.3 petrol propshaft. (I'm not talking about the rubber bit that holds the centre bearing; rather the front end that fts into the transmission). I couldn't see any mention of it on the site and I need to know how to replace it as the garage says it's probably badly worn - hence all the noise; which I though was a front wheel bearing. Thanks Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #1 on: Apr 29th, 2008, 1:39pm » |
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Hi Mike. Yes their is one. I have one if you need it . There is only 6 bolts in the coupling, however you will need to undo the bolts in the centre carrier which will allow the back of the prop to move away from the gearbox & the front of the prop you'll need to push it forwards. This will allow you to prize out the donut & fit a new one. Ghia-x
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #2 on: Apr 29th, 2008, 2:00pm » |
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Thanks Ghia-x, I may well take you up on that; I'm just checking the cost of a new one. Is yours on a car at the moment or has it been removed? The reason for asking is that the garage man said that I should watch out that I don't remove the "strip" around it until I've fitted it as something awful might happen. Will get back to you shortly. btw how many miles has it done and how much did you want for it? Thanks again. Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #3 on: Apr 29th, 2008, 4:05pm » |
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I seem to recall the correct name for these 'Donut' joints is actually a 'Guibo' joint ? Only remove the metal strip around the middle of a new one AFTER fitting as it will expand slightly and it will be rather tricky to get all the bolts in ! You CAN re-compress one without the metal band by using long jubilee clips if you are careful. Did one a long time ago on my Mk2 Granada estate - not difficult to do.
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #4 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 7:54am » |
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Ghia-x, Have sent you a pm as FordpartsUK say that the donut for pre-facelifts can only be ordered as part of the whole propshaft although they can do us a special deal of £353.67 +VAT - lol THanks Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #5 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 7:56am » |
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Oh and thanks for the tip about the jubilee clips Scorpio-Mike, I'll do that, it certainly makes sense Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #6 on: May 1st, 2008, 3:47am » |
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on Apr 30th, 2008, 7:54am, Mike_Floutier wrote:Ghia-x, Have sent you a pm as FordpartsUK say that the donut for pre-facelifts can only be ordered as part of the whole propshaft although they can do us a special deal of £353.67 +VAT - lol THanks Mike |
| Surely that can't be right...it's a separate part to the propshaft. They may have misunderstood what you wanted & quoted you for a whole propshaft, which I would assume, wouldn't come with the doughnut attached Not sure, but wouldn't the previous Granada share the same doughnut ?
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #7 on: May 1st, 2008, 10:33am » |
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I know, it sounds daft. I guess it may be like the steering rack. Anyway, Ghia-x I'd love your donut if it's still available. Not sure if you got my PM ok. THanks Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #8 on: May 1st, 2008, 12:04pm » |
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Mike wrote "Ghia-x I'd love your donut if it's still available". ghia-x. I've never heard it called that before. Ooo. You can have my donut any time. Neee titta titta. Joking aside yes its here. I'll give you a bell....
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #9 on: May 1st, 2008, 10:45pm » |
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Mike. Something in the back of my part worn grey matter says that the doughnut on the Scorp unlike the Granada fits without a clamp.Someone will pop up to put me right ! GOZZ.
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #10 on: May 1st, 2008, 10:54pm » |
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Hi Mike. 1 sugar coated ring donut rapped & dispatched to you today Should be with you saturday at the latest. ghia-x
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #11 on: May 2nd, 2008, 9:26am » |
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Thanks ghia-x! And thanks for the tip Gozz, will let you know how it goes. Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #12 on: May 3rd, 2008, 4:12pm » |
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I've got underneath the car today to have a look at this propshaft flexible rubber coupling that I've been calling a donut (can't remember why). Unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding, I think I've got the donut for a manual rather than automatic (Ghia-x, if your reading I sent you a pm - sorry I probably gave you duff gen) but since it's such a nice day I thought I'd have a look at my exiting one anyway. I've posted some photos of it: 3 from the front at: http://www.exhortations.co.uk/images/donut%201.jpg http://www.exhortations.co.uk/images/donut%202.jpg http://www.exhortations.co.uk/images/donut%203.jpg and one from the rear at: http://www.exhortations.co.uk/images/donut%204.jpg As I've never seen this thing before (didn't even know it existed) I have no idea as to whether this kind of cracking and splitting is just mild wear or if it could be causing this vibration I'm feeling. The car is 11 years old and done 300,000 miles btw. I'd be interested to hear your views; could this be my problem or should I be looking elsewhere. I have replaced the centre bearing recently and it still feels fine. Thanks Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #13 on: May 4th, 2008, 2:47am » |
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Doesn't look that bad to me....a few cracks, but looks pretty tight & secure...may need changing in the near future. I'm pretty sure it's not the cause of the noise that you're hearing
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #14 on: May 4th, 2008, 7:16am » |
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Yes, that's what I thought, it's hard to think what could be causing this vibration. I guess the transmission could be causing it (the autobox I mean) after all it is responsible for the "cattle-grid" effect, so it could easily manage this current vibration. Maybe I should take it to a specialist and get an opinion. Thanks Jonnycab! Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #15 on: May 4th, 2008, 1:23pm » |
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Ghia-x, I just sent you a pm. Sorry about the "exhausts" there was a mix up in the page numbering. Mike
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #16 on: May 4th, 2008, 8:46pm » |
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hmm, i have had one go on a 3.0 granada. it gave no warning and made no noise before it went, but when it went it was like the hammers of hell going off, it was easy to change. if it was mine i would change it. you cannot drive very far or much over 10 mph without shaking your teeth loose, not much fun if its late and your a long way from home.
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #17 on: May 4th, 2008, 11:12pm » |
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on May 1st, 2008, 12:04pm, ghia-x wrote:Mike wrote "Ghia-x I'd love your donut if it's still available". ghia-x. I've never heard it called that before. Ooo. You can have my donut any time. Neee titta titta. Joking aside yes its here. I'll give you a bell.... |
| ROFL...only on this site would you get a gem like that Mike, I used to get a heavy vibration and rumbling through the steering wheel and pedals at around 44mph and again at 50mph where O/D dropped in, seemed more related to gearbox RPM than prop RPM, hold the throttle to delay the shifts a bit and I'd get no vibration. This went on but never got any worse, I never did solve it. Assumed it'd be sorted when my 'new' autobox went in but it was still there...it wasn't really like the 'cattle grid' described on the site either. There was a TSB about the torque converter in early 2.3's causing 'engine vibration', apparently they later changed the design of the TC but mine probably had the early design.
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #18 on: May 5th, 2008, 12:46am » |
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Mike. If the gearbox mounting gets weak and drops,the doughnut is out of line with box and prop and is put under enough strain to cause disintegration. GOZZ.
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Re: 2.3 Petrol - propshaft donut
« Reply #19 on: May 5th, 2008, 8:47am » |
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Thanks guys, I'll bear these ideas in ind when I change the coupling Mike PS Ghia-x, did you get my pm about the donut - I'm just hoping you'll sent me another chocolate - hehe!
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