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Cossie Radiator
« on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 2:33pm »
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Hi all,
 
Settled in Scotland now, haven't been on for a while due to move, but back here now  Smiley.
 
I remember reading about this so can anyone help wiv info.... My Cossie estate has had a slightly ballooned radiator for ages, but it finally gave up last night and burst, in spectacular style half way across the Lochcarron Road in a blizzard at 2 in the morning  Cry lol. Luckily I had enuf water to keep topping it up and it got me home without getting hot.
I know the cossie radiators are hellish expensive and prone to balloon but remember someone saying they used a 2.3 rad succesfully and got one for about £50 new Huh . May have been Highlander... apparantly all I need to do is change the header tank or block off the extra bleed pipe Huh  
Can anyone tell me where to get a 2.3 rad cheap and if this conversion is successful i.e. it dont run hot in the summer etc ?
 
Many thanks in anticipation,
 
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 2:55pm »
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From what i remember reading, the 2.3 rad can be used if you transfer the pipework and 2.3 header across with it.
 
I think you'll find that the 12v rad is compatable with the 24v, as is the one from the 12v v6 granny too ?
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:00pm »
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Any auto radiator will do, all you need to do as you have already mentioned is either change the header tank or block off the third small hose from the top of the 24v header tank that goes to the top of the 24v rad.
 
The 12v rad still needs the pipework blocked off as it doesnt have the pipe at the top like the 24v
 
Works fine, 30,000 miles in mine so far, never a problem.  Grin
 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:06pm »
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Okay thanks for that,  Wink
more options then... Anyone got a really good rad to sell me, will need it packing and posting to IV40 area will obviously pay p+p too. Or can anyone tell me roughly how much / where to get a new one as long as they can post it ! Not too worried about the header tank I can easily blank off the little pipe that becomes redundant.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:10pm »
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Hi Stuart,  
 
thanx for info, we are in Inverinate, near Kyle of Lochalsh, back onto Loch Duich IV40 8HB.  Moved up last December, love it here, have been touring Scotland for years, finally made the plunge, lost a bit of money as we sold our house down sth just as Northern Rock news broke but glad we got out when we did.... away from the rat race lol Grin
 
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:11pm »
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I've got a good 2.0 one I can post to you tomorrow for the price of a chinese takeaway Wink
 
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:34pm »
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Hi Stuart,  
Yep that sounds great have sent pm.  Glad to get it resolved as I use the car to transport my equipment around... I have started to run a Karaoke Roadshow in a lot of local pubs and hotels now has took of really well as no - one does one up here and the locals and tourists all love it !!  Smiley
Will be going back to doing auto box re-builds next year once I finish building my garage, so will post when I start doing them, hopefully will be able to help a few guys out on here by offering an honest and reliable rebuild / repair service in the Highlands. Wink
 
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 4:33pm »
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Oh Well, stripped the radiator out today, had a break in the rain and snow  Grin  Will be glad when we get some dry weather so I can carry on building new workshop, All I have at the mo is a tool shed which is crammed full and a concrete base with 900 concrete blocks and a big bag of sand stood next to it  Sad
 
Anyway whilst stripping out the rad I noticed the Transmission cooler in front had a big hangy drip on one of the pipes attached. I took the pipe off to re - do the joint Grin  At this point the stub snapped off the cooler Angry  I didn't use any force at all, and once I had removed the cooler the problem was obvious Sad  It is made of ally and all the road grime / salt has corroded it over the years to the point where it was rotten.  If this had gone undetected it could very well have burst whilst driving and caused my transmission to burn out.  I only rebuilt that last year so I'd not have been happy... Grin
 
Message here guys, if your Scorpio has done 90k + miles have a very thorough look at the tranny cooler, also check the metal pipes too cos I've seen these fail thru rust.
 
Have just ordered a replacement cooler kit, bigger than standard one  Grin  from my gearbox parts supplier £60 Smiley Also comes with brackets and fittings and theres loads of room to fit it up between the steering cooler and air con rad. These kits also help the gearbox last longer too cos they are more efficient than the standard cooler.  Good if you tow, carry load or have a heavy right foot  Grin
 
Might get it back on the road for Friday, otherwise I'll be humping all the gear out the back Cry and sticking it in the Land Rover to go to Portree Friday Night,
 
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 27th, 2008, 12:31am »
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Ah! the gearbox oil cooler, exactly the same thing happened to me recently, corrosion on the pipe stubs, fine until you move them the tiniest amount, moisture gets under the paint and weakens the alloy while everything seems ok on the surface.  I was lucky that Ghia-X had a spare in his garage which he kindly posted to me double quick. Bikerdon.
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Re: Cossie Radiator
« Reply #9 on: Nov 27th, 2008, 2:38am »
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My gearbox oil cooler failed near Orly airport on the way to Biarritz 2 years ago. Ended up leaving it in Paris for a fortnight and coming back on a french car transporter from Paris to Calais and then on one from Dover to Warrington.
 
Two good things came of the experience though;  
 
1. Never take your car to France when the Virgin Pendolino and Eurostar do it a lot faster, easier and sometimes a lot cheaper.
 
2. While broken down in France, Green Flag rented a Mercedes S Class W221 (New shape).... best car I have ever driven and I am now the proud owner of a 2003 S Class 3.2 CDI which does 42mpg (I could only just about get that on LPG on my Cossie) and a boot which will carry Belgium
 
I agree about the warning regarding these coolers; I was lucky to have one as a spare but it still cost me £150.00 to get the gearbox serviced afterwards and as I had kept driving and then stopping to fill up with Auto fluid I hadn't done any permanent box damage so just needed fluid and a filter!
 
The pipes are so thin and exposed, they will probably be very weak on a lot of cars and the owners won't know until; like me, you are batting down the motorway when all of a sudden there is a huge pile of stinking smoke behind as the auto fluid flows out onto the manifolds!!
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Re: Cossie Radiator
« Reply #10 on: Nov 27th, 2008, 5:20pm »
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Baz, dont get too bitter, we have all loved our scorps, but I too have only 1 left (the works run about) I swapped the familey car for an S-Type R jag (yes the 4.2 supercharged V8 one) and its fantastic, a real porsche eater, it runs on LPG and gets better mpg than the old scorp 24v. will post some pics if I ever work out how to do it.
The Jag forum is excellant too.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 8th, 2008, 12:30pm »
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Smiley
 
Rad fitted Saturday along with new transmission cooler.
Gave it a run into Kyle great to have the old girl back on the road again.  No signs of any coolant or transmission leaks so well happy, driving nirvana restored  Grin
 
Big ta to Stuart for his help cheers M8  Wink
 
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 8th, 2008, 6:16pm »
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No Probs Smiley
 
So the Highlands and Islands service finally delivered then Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 9th, 2008, 6:48pm »
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Grin
 
Yeah finally delivered lol.  To be honest, I get a lot of things sent up here and have found that the couriers get the parcels to Inverness and then they get transferred onto smaller local delivery firms....
 
We have found Royal Mail Parcel Force are the quickest to us Wink  Normally get here next day, good ole Postman Pat  Grin  
 
Once again tho many thanx car running lovely  Grin
 
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