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« on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:50pm »
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Hi new on here, considering buying a td manual estate. can any one tell me what mpg i will get. is high miles a problem. do they have a cam belt or is it chain. six years ago i had a 2.3 ghia x auto, i loved it untill the gear box died.  Cry many thanks rayzor
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 18th, 2009, 6:21pm »
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hi mate
 
not to sure about mpg but the engines are pretty solid, they use a push rod system, and timing its done via gears so no belts/chains to worry about, if its had a regular service then high miles isnt really a problem, but the belt tensioners have been know to go sloppy/squeal after a few years in service
 
if its had a history of towing caravans then have a good listen to the rear diff for any whine, knocks rattles etc
 
the mt75 manual box is a good strong box, but like everything benefits from new oil from time to time
 
as with all scorpios if they have been looked after then you shouldn't have many problems  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 18th, 2009, 7:29pm »
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Hi Rayzor & welcome to the forum  Smiley I've got a '96 TD manual so I'll try and answer some of your questions.
Mileage wise, I get about 36mpg on a run and about 30 - 32 around doors. I run on waste vegetable oil so you might get slightly better on regular diesel. As Matt says, there are no timing belts to worry about as it is done by  gear wheels. I've heard that the VM engine that's fitted to the Scorpio can suffer from head gasket problems so check carefully for any signs of problems here. Other than that, they seem to be good strong engines. Mine has done 157K and always starts first turn of the key and runs well.
The other thing to be aware of is the diff, it's unique to the TD and it's sought after by the kit car & stock car boys as it's a brilliant ratio for their needs, so make sure there's no noise as a replacement could be pricey!  
The usual Scorpio electrical problems apply so check for flooded fuse boxes due to blocked drain holes and missing battery covers. Alternators are also different from the petrol models and again quite expensive.
I wouldn't say it's the fastest diesel I've ever driven, it's a bit slow off the mark but picks up quite well once the turbo kicks in and it's definitely a comfy big cruiser  Smiley
 
Good luck in finding your dream car and I'm sure you'll find the guys on here a great help, I know I did when I first bought mine  Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 20th, 2009, 7:12pm »
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My TD has done 185k runs fine, although she does have a bit of a squeal with the tensioner Shocked
 
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 20th, 2009, 10:21pm »
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i used to have a granada td with the same engine, although i think the scorpio has more power, but i used to get 28-30 around town, and 34ish on a run, good engine had covered 130k and i had no probs with it
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 21st, 2009, 6:52pm »
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on Mar 20th, 2009, 7:12pm, PeteB wrote:
My TD has done 185k runs fine, although she does have a bit of a squeal with the tensioner Shocked
 
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Yep, my tensioner died a while back, it's now done by a bit of solid bar and me on tensioning duty  Wink I wasn't paying the price of a new one, they cost a fortune!!
 
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 1:46pm »
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how have you done it m8 as mine is goosed just a pice of solid bar at 85mm centres or elongated they want £108.00 plus vat just for the damper  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 5:44pm »
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Hi Wumpster, I just did it with a bit of solid bar, can't remember what the centres were, had to do mine by guess work as it had disintegrated  Roll Eyes I didn't elongate the holes and adjustment is done by slackening both lower bolts and tensioning with the 1/2 drive that you would normally use to take the pressure off the tensioner. It's been on for 17k miles with no problems.  
It was a d**n sight cheaper than the £108 plus vat jobby from Ford  Grin
 
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 24th, 2009, 6:52pm »
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cheers m8 i will give it a go as mine is ratteling like a good un if i put pressure on the tensioner it goes so its lookin like a little fabrication this weekend  Grin Grin Grin Grin untill i can get down to the scrap yard and find one off something else i can mod with the mig hammer and grinder  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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