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Brake system upgrade
« on: May 26th, 2009, 5:30pm »
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well in the nearest future i'll have to change my rear discs and was thinking about doing a full upgrade to Cosworth brake system. All 4 discs, pads, calipers etc.
Anyone did such a thing before? I'm looking for a list of parts that are needed, some advice on the whole operation etc...  
Also what kind of discs and pads would you recommend?  
 
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 26th, 2009, 9:20pm »
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I'll swap you a set of 24v calipers for yours Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 26th, 2009, 9:55pm »
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sounds like a good deal to me Smiley but for now I don't have cash for a set of new Cossie discs + money to pay the garage to install them as it's beyond my capabilities and tools to do it myself , so for now I'm just making plans Wink
 
i'm just making a list of what i need...  
 
1) 4x brake pads sets
2) 2x 278mm discs
3) 2x 273mm discs
4) 4x Cosworth calipers
5) 4x Cosworth caliper mountings
 
Anything else needed for a swap?
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #3 on: May 26th, 2009, 10:12pm »
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The hubs are all the same, just the calipers that are different.
 
Not too big a job, replace the discs pads and calipers and bleed the brake system.
 
Once you get your discs and pads give me shout and i'll swap them over for you, it'll cost you a couple of cups of coffee though Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 26th, 2009, 10:18pm »
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I'm glad you like my coffee  Grin
 
Ain't there a mounting bit under the calipers that is also needed for the swap? So they are mounted higher then the ones I got...  
 
I'll try to get the discs and pads within 2 weeks and then I'll definitely give you a shout. Cheers for that mate!  
 
I can rebuild you a fusebox for that  Wink  ROFL  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 26th, 2009, 10:56pm »
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Stuart, have you got those calipers off? I don't want to be cheeky but I was thinking of having them painted red Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 26th, 2009, 11:02pm »
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I've got a 24v im stripping just now, i'll take the calipers off it this weekend Wink
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« Reply #7 on: May 26th, 2009, 11:10pm »
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mhm Grin got time and enough good will to paint them? ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
 
please check if there ain't those mounting bits under the calipers that lift them... i'm pretty sure there are  and will be needed for the swap... or the calipers will be too low...
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #8 on: May 27th, 2009, 1:20am »
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Has anybody tried fitting Mondeo Mk3 front calipers with Focus ST170 300mm discs?
 
I read on a Mondeo site that you can do that for the MK1 and 2 Mondeo. Since the Mondeo Mk2 16v has the same discs and calipers as the Scorpio 16v (and the Mk2 24v has the same discs and calipers as the Scorpio 24v), then they ought to bolt straight on. The wheels might not fit back on though afterwards.
 
All Mondeo Mk3 have same 300mm front brakes but have 5 stud wheels, that's why you need the 4 stud Focus discs.
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #9 on: May 27th, 2009, 8:35am »
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on May 26th, 2009, 11:10pm, wojtekor wrote:
mhm Grin got time and enough good will to paint them? ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
 
please check if there ain't those mounting bits under the calipers that lift them... i'm pretty sure there are  and will be needed for the swap... or the calipers will be too low...

 
Dont know what you mean?
 
The calipers are different sizes and just bolt directly to the hub
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« Reply #10 on: May 27th, 2009, 8:40am »
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I think he is referring to the caliper carrier, the bit you unbolt to get the disc off
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« Reply #11 on: May 27th, 2009, 8:43am »
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Highlander.
Tell old wojit you'll paint em as well  Roll Eyes better send im a colour chart though,just in case it's the wrong red  Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: May 27th, 2009, 1:16pm »
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I think he is referring to the caliper carrier, the bit you unbolt to get the disc off

 
That's it!  Grin one more technical term to remember Wink
 
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better send im a colour chart though,just in case it's the wrong red  

 
i thought that was obvious ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #13 on: May 27th, 2009, 3:06pm »
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Just thinking, isn't the caliper the same, both use the same pads? I can only think of the carrier being different, as the disc comes 10mm higher.
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Re: Brake system upgrade
« Reply #14 on: May 27th, 2009, 4:30pm »
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I think they use different pads.
 
I checked the online catalogue on http://www.brakeparts.co.uk/
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« Reply #15 on: May 27th, 2009, 6:48pm »
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I think they use different pads.
 
I checked the online catalogue on http://www.brakeparts.co.uk/

 
Some may list that these 24V's need wear indicators, mine didn't. Otherwise the pads looked exactly the same rear. Front is a different story I see Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 27th, 2009, 7:00pm »
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The wear indicators are for the Granada - 94 the Scorpio didnt have them.
 
Wojtekor do you mean the bracket on the front brakes?
 
24v front Caliper and bracket has a different part number from the others.
 
DOHC, 12v and diesel appear to share the same one.
 
I'm almost positive the 24v front is a larger caliper but i'll check at the weekend
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« Reply #17 on: May 27th, 2009, 9:16pm »
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What I mean Stuart is something like this:  
 

 
If you compare the brakes from a 2.3 and Cosworth you'll see that not only the calipers are bigger, they are also mounted higher...
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« Reply #18 on: May 28th, 2009, 10:26pm »
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Stu, did you get my PM about the discs set on ebay? Also have you compared the brakes between 2.3 and Cosworth and now know what I meant? Wink
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« Reply #19 on: May 28th, 2009, 10:36pm »
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wont be able to have a look till the weekend but yeah i know what you mean, the bracket on the front brakes, it will be different im sure but i will be bringing them with me anyway.
 
Got your pm, im not too up on my brakes, i just replace mines with ones off another car so i dont know what they are Smiley
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