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Highlander
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #20 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 11:43am » |
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Not checked yet 
I'm going on the urban legend that the Granada 4x4 front subframe will fit on the Scorpio therefore allowing the front driveshafts to fit (as our Scorpio wishbones are in the way just now)
5stud is digging me out a 4x4 Granada from his barn 
I'm sure there will be some way of connecting it all together and it has been done before I believe
What other parts have you got?? i'm interested in the 3.92 diffs, is it a pair of each you have?
P.s. Gazza I know what you mean about the cornering 
Takes a bit of getting used to when you expect it to slide away and it doesnt lol
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Gazza_UK
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #21 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 12:59pm » |
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 yea you goy it Stuart
JUST remember which car your in 
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #22 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 1:10pm » |
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lol yes.
I would imagine if you really lose a 4x4 you're in real bother though!
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Gazza_UK
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #23 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 3:11pm » |
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Yea just a bit but you must be going some to do that . . .
But I must admit them BMW Z3 things lost two of them on an Island and a couple of big Merc's
Ahh the good ole days 
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #24 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 9:58pm » |
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Well had an MOT inspector pal have a look over it and it looks like its a breaker  (Sorry to all you Sierra fans out there)
Nothing major wrong but lots of little jobs needing done, looks like its back to plan A...
Scorpio 24v Ultima 4x4
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #25 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 11:08pm » |
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on Jul 20th, 2009, 9:58pm, Highlander wrote: looks like its back to plan A...
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Just a small thing, (or maybe a big thing) you need to be aware of Stuart.
On the Granada 4x4 the chassis rails (only way i can describe them) there is a cut out on both sides to allow the front drive shafts to pass under, all non 4x4 Granadas don't have this and I doubt the Scorpio would as well,
Get your self under 5studs 4x4 and take a peek, and you'll see what I mean.
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Scorpio_Mike
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #26 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 10:04am » |
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Have a read of this - http://poweredbyford.co.uk/index.php?topic=88.0 - you need to register to access the article. This is the inspiration for my own current project
There is a contact number at the bottom of the page, worth giving him a call for advice.
Regarding the chassis rail cut-outs - from what I've read on other forums, they are not needed ( on the Sierra ) unless you do some serious lowering.
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #27 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 10:17pm » |
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on Jul 20th, 2009, 11:08pm, lesterlad wrote:
Just a small thing, (or maybe a big thing) you need to be aware of Stuart.
On the Granada 4x4 the chassis rails (only way i can describe them) there is a cut out on both sides to allow the front drive shafts to pass under, all non 4x4 Granadas don't have this and I doubt the Scorpio would as well,
Get your self under 5studs 4x4 and take a peek, and you'll see what I mean.
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Sierra 4x4 front subframe is a straight swap for the Scorpio subframe
Got it into position tonite, Plenty clearance for the driveshafts , will post a pic tomorrow
Still got the front driveshaft/hub thing to look at and sort out but i'm sure theres a way
Looking good so far....
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Scorpio_Mike
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #28 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 10:26pm » |
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Are you going to be using 4-stud or 5-stud front hubs ?
I would be interested in the 5-stud 4x4 hubs if you won't be using them.
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #29 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 10:35pm » |
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Stick with 4 stud hubs from an XR4x4 Sierra - means you can keep the scorp wheels
I'll have a look in my spares pile and see what diffs n stuff i have stu
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #30 on: Sep 5th, 2009, 10:42am » |
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I dont have 5 stud hubs, the Sierra had 4 stud but they are a lot smaller than the 24v ones.
Ideally i'd like to keep the Scorpio front hubs and find a way to adapt them for 4x4, going to have a proper look today but I'm thinking about trying :
Sierra front hubs in Scorpio carriers
Scorpio rear wheel hubs in the front carriers
Mondeo 4x4 front hubs
there will be a way i'm sure...
Also found out the Scorpio has the fittings on the chassis for the Sierra/Granada front antiroll bar
And that the 4x4 sump DOES fit perfectly on the 24v block
It's looking too easy....
Pinto, i have the 3.6 diffs from the 2.9 Sierra 4x4 but I'd prefer the 3.9 ones from the 2 litre version if you have anything like that, got the chance of a whole 2.0 car but i'm only after the two diffs
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #31 on: Sep 5th, 2009, 2:55pm » |
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Stu,  love this idea. It has me thinking 
Found these on Ebay if they are of any use to you.
3.92 Diff
Also for a complete 2.0 4x4
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #32 on: Sep 5th, 2009, 3:18pm » |
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Yep thats the front one i'm after but Hell will freeze over before I pay £100 for one
I only paid £200 for this Sierra 4x4 complete
The whole car option looks to be the best bet, then i can get the whole setup and make some money back on the Sierra parts
If it works and its looking pretty good so far i'm already planning the next one, a 24v 4x4 estate again with the 3.9 diffs that I'll use for towing
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #33 on: Sep 8th, 2009, 10:16pm » |
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Ok, first real problem
the 24v cats sit where the anti roll bar should be..
probably this is the reason the Scorpio subframe came into existence in the first place..
thinking cap on again...
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #34 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:14pm » |
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Stewart,
When I did my 4x4 24v Sapphire a few years back I used the XR4x4 downpipes (very slight tweak at manifold joint on offside) with BOA ex manifolds. You can weld in lambda bosses (and cats if you bother) where you like then.
You'll have to pop up country and see me, roof going on workshop now lol, then the 24v 4x4 RS Focus project will begin !!
PS Might be getting rid of my 24 v Estate, complete running car at the mo, just want engine, loom and wheels off it if you interested. Loadsa new bits but needs welding on rear chassis and rear bumper. Metallic Black, tidy in and out.
Regards Dave
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Highlander
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Re: 4x4 diff ratios
« Reply #35 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:43pm » |
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I'll take it
If you just need a donor 24v i may can do you a swap
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