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Hi all ..........could any one tell me when The face lift model happened in ultimas I own a 30/06/1997 2.9 24v chassis no. WF0FXXGAGFVB84963. Also a 1999 2.3 ultima Parked next to each other I cant see a difference , thanks for any help Kim 
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Thanks for that..........It gets stranger and stranger The reg on my 2.3 ultima is T798 LJN chassis WFOFXXGAGFVC59641
and is not a Face lift as your link has just shown me ,Although the car was first reg on 09/04/1999  ? cheers Kim
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #3 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 10:18pm » |
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Possibly frontal accident damage and replaced with pre-facelift parts
Or a late registered pre-facelift
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:24pm » |
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kim.
I've got a 1999 S reg 2.3 that is not a facelift,only later parts are a front bumper and headlamps,suppose it had a frontal happening at some stage.Genuine facelift saloons appear to have a centre head restraint in the rear,although first registered 26/1/99,mine hasn't got one,mysterious indeed !
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #5 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 12:43am » |
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Dont forget that some cars / models can be standing in the field untill needed and then sent to dealers and by the time they are registered as a new car they could be quite old even by a year or two and as the Scorpio / ultima did not sell well enough this could possably be the case 
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 3:45am » |
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As far as I know there were only about 8000 facelifts ever produced & were built from early to mid 1998, & were registered mainly as R or S reg. It's possible that these facelifts sold out pretty quick (new design) & they still had loads of pre-faces left (about 35,000 built), so carried on registering the older ones right up to late 1999
Edit.....It's also a possibility that FMDs may have been selling the older design slightly cheaper than the new design. That might be a reason why there are so many late registered pre-facelifts
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #7 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 10:24am » |
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facelifts were made from November 97 till June 98
We have seen them registered with R, S, T, V , W and Y reg's although the T, V, W's are rare and we only know of one Y reg (Amigafans)
So your 24v is a prefacelift, your 2.3 was a september 97 build so is also prefacelift, just later registered
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/vinno.htm
digits 12 and 13 give the build date (month and year)
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Cheers for that ........built Sept 97 did not sell till 4/99.....1 year 7 months later only 4 months difference in age between my two cars one a P plate and the other a T plate now I know how to read the vin I will check on the next one thanks all, Kim
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 10:31pm » |
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WOW . You guys are an absolute mindfield of information. It's quite intresting that around 8000 facelift models were made, but was wondering how specific the info could be broken down to  I.E.....How many of which engine size, body type, colour etc ? Just a thought 
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:51pm » |
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Stuart, Is it a mis-print that in 1996 they made ONE Cosworth Manual?
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #12 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 9:33am » |
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on Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:23pm, Highlander wrote:
Interesting - body types 2CP & 5HT suggest 2-dr coupe and 5-dr hatchback
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #13 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 9:38am » |
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on Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:51pm, adam wrote:| Stuart, Is it a mis-print that in 1996 they made ONE Cosworth Manual? |
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No, there is one that I know of, it wasnt made like that it was converted but obviously is now registered as a manual, there may me more that havent notified the DVLA.
This list was cars currently on the road in 2007, not those actually built.
Interestingly there is one registered 2005 and one 2007
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #14 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 5:18pm » |
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on Jul 24th, 2009, 9:38am, Highlander wrote:
Interestingly there is one registered 2005 and one 2007 |
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The one for 2007 gives body style as UKN, what type would that be or could it be abbreviation for unknown?
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #15 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 6:13pm » |
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Possibly, I wondered if was some sort of kit car / donor car maybe
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #16 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 9:42pm » |
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As said previously, Stuart you are a minefield of information . If you next produce info on what colours were made with the body types i will have a shrine to you & your god like scorpio knowlege in the cleanest corner of my garage
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Re: Face-lift model ?
« Reply #17 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 11:43pm » |
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actually all that info is in the Ford microcat but so far i've not been able to extract the data
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