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Tekno
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Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« on: Aug 31st, 2009, 12:39pm » |
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yep  third afternoon fighting with this job, *Lots of swearing*
Now I'm looking for second nut (left one) which holds the heater box... Where can it be 
Are they symmetrically located?
Any advices are appreciated
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #1 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 1:43pm » |
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Not done the job myself, but if you mean where it says here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/matrix.htm
"Remove the two nuts securing the heater box to the bulkhead. Note that the bulkhead here is horizontal, (below the air conditioning cooler)"
I believe it's attaching to the filter box on the outside and looking from outside you can see the location of the brackets each side of the box towards the back - might give you an idea of where to look inside the car.
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #3 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 2:14pm » |
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It was behind left vent (drivers on LHD).
I was not able to see it, but found it with hand 
Heater box moves a little bit but doesn't want to come out
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #4 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 2:20pm » |
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Heater matrix almost gets out...
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #5 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 2:56pm » |
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New heater matrix is a little bit shorter 
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #6 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 3:31pm » |
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Tekno you are a brave man indeed  . I once changed the matrix on my granada & vowed never to do one again after that. Your right it is a complete nightmare  . I have now said if the matrix packs up on the cossie then im joining the rubber hoses together & buying a 12 volt heater . Im too fat & old to be doing jobs like that anymore  . your doing a good job m8. Keep it up 
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #7 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 10:55pm » |
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on Aug 31st, 2009, 3:31pm, Tons_of_fun wrote:| I'm too fat & old to be doing jobs like that anymore |
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #8 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 11:06am » |
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Tekno, where did you get the new matrix from ?......not wishing to alarm you in anyway, but that new matrix may not fit through the gap in the centre of the heater box due to the end being too wide
When I replaced my matrix about 3 years ago (yes, it is a nightmare), I bought a cheap one & it wouldn't fit in the heater box, so I ended up taking it back to the shop & getting the proper one from Ford
Good luck
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #9 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:19pm » |
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NOW WHOS THE BOSS
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #10 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:48pm » |
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on Sep 2nd, 2009, 11:06am, Jonnycab wrote:Tekno, where did you get the new matrix from ?......not wishing to alarm you in anyway, but that new matrix may not fit through the gap in the centre of the heater box due to the end being too wide
When I replaced my matrix about 3 years ago (yes, it is a nightmare), I bought a cheap one & it wouldn't fit in the heater box, so I ended up taking it back to the shop & getting the proper one from Ford
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I bought that from local car parts store so it's not from Ford. It's meant to be used with sierra,granada and scorpio without CC (and yes my scorpio has CC)
That was very tight, I mean VERY TIGHT to put inside heater box, because cooling fins didn't want go through middle whole. It was not possible to put matrix inside before I ripped whole heater box to outside of car.
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #11 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:51pm » |
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I did sacrifice 1 centimeter to duct tape (for attaching sealing to matrix end)
EHHH, what is this? 
View from opposite side: 
Btw there was lot of debris in heater box
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #12 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 2:34pm » |
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I used clip to lock second flap to "hot" position.
Time to put it back: 
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #13 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 5:31pm » |
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Where does that green connector go?
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #14 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 5:40pm » |
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In the picture above (reply 12) there is a green socket,top right. Could it be there??.
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #15 on: Sep 3rd, 2009, 4:05pm » |
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no.. thats relay
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #16 on: Sep 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm » |
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Ah, it was for PATS module.. but I forget where PATS module should be mounted
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #17 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 11:27am » |
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What is proper way to get air out from the cooling system?
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #18 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 1:15pm » |
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Have a read of THIS page and see if that helps.
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Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
« Reply #19 on: Sep 4th, 2009, 2:22pm » |
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Should I left expansion reservoir cap removed or how air gets out?
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