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Heater Blower Motor(s)
« on: Nov 11th, 2009, 7:45pm »
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Does a Scorpio have two of these one for passenger and driver? I only ask because if you change the heat level on the Drivers side you can hear the fan change speed but this does not happen on the passenger side....
 
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Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
« Reply #1 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:22pm »
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Hi Jon, no, there's only one motor for the heater, I know cos I changed mine a while back  Smiley
 
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Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
« Reply #2 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:27pm »
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Ok, so can you think of any reasons for the symptoms above? Also how do you run you car on veg oil!
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:29pm »
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Drivers side takes priority and will be controlling the blower settings so the passenger side cannot affect it
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:31pm »
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on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:27pm, jon_viola wrote:
Also how do you run you car on veg oil!

 
VERY CHEAPLY!!  Grin
 
I run two on veg oil, I just pour mine in, Jim has the proper set up for filtering and heating it though, very impressive it  is Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:32pm »
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VERY CHEAPLY!!  Grin
 
I run two on veg oil, I just pour mine in, Jim has the proper set up for filtering and heating it though, very impressive it  is Smiley

 
what? a deep fat fryer? Grin ROFL
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Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
« Reply #6 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:36pm »
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So just buy a can of veg oil and pour it in? How does it run? Does the engine need any mods/servicing etc etc?
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Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
« Reply #7 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:48pm »
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I collect used oil from the local indian take away and let it settle and filter it but if you buy new unused stuff from a supermarket you can pour it straight in , the Scorpio diesel is an ideal engine for it.
 
Ideally it recommended you have a heater system fitted to heat the oil before it enters the pump but i've been running mine just in standard Scorpio diesels and they run fine, need to mix it with diesel in the wintertime as they can be hard to start in cold weather running on oil only but the rest of the time i run 100% veg oil.
 
As for the running, i'm still convinced the engines run quieter and better on the veg oil, and the smell!! its just great  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:56pm »
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Hi Jon, I ran mine on used veg oil by filtering it clean. The VM engine in the Scorp is very veg tolerant and will happily run high percentages, providing the heater plugs and injectors are in good condition. In the summer months I was running 100% waste oil and adding 5 or 10% unleaded petrol to the oil in the winter. (5% petrol thins the oil by the same amount as 40% diesel)
The only mod I made to my car was fitting a flat plate heat exchanger which used heat from the coolant system to warm the veg oil and prevent the filter waxing up in cold weather. I did 30K on used veg oil with no problems and saved a fortune in fuel costs   Smiley
I'd recommend having a look at an excellent forum if you are interested, there are details on various filtering set ups there too, if you decide to go down the waste oil route.  http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/
If you are using fresh oil from the supermarket or cash & carry, there is no need to filter first.
The only thing to watch out for is that you might experience a couple of blocked fuel filters in the first few hundred miles, this is due to the veg oil cleaning out any crud that might be in your diesel tank
 
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 8:58pm »
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I'd agree with Stuart, the motor smells brilliant  Grin
Have you got my ex Scorpio fixed yet Stuart?
 
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:01pm »
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Not yet Jim, its at the other side of the country but i have the parts for it.
 
Hows the Merc doing, got it on the veg yet?
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:09pm »
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Another tip if you go collecting waste veg oil..
 
chip shops rarely have used oil, going by the ones I enquired at they just constantly top it up as it burns off or is sold in your chips Smiley
 
Chinese takeaways also rarely have any as it is apparently used in large quantities to make chinese curry!! that put me off beef currys!! Wink
 
Indian restaurants which sell purely indian food give the best waste oil to work with, very little fat content compared to those which also do hamburgers, kebabs etc
 
took me a while to work that out but it saves a lot of time if you get good stuff to work with Wink
 
Also, every now and again they make a big batch of garlic and coriander pakora which gives the exhaust a lovely smell  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:10pm »
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Merc's going great Stuart, still on diesel tho  Sad I've got the new heater plugs and hoping to get them fitted in the next week along with some viton o rings on the fuel system then I'll get onto the Veg and start saving a fortune again  Grin
 
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:26pm »
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Aren't there customs and excise duty pitfalls in doing this? I'm sure I read somewhere that they get a tad upset if you don't do things by the book and pay some duty even on waste oil?
 
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Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
« Reply #14 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:32pm »
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On waste oil, yes. on veg oil from a supermarket no up to 2500ltrs a year.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:35pm »
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You need to keep records of what you are doing/using but as Jon says you are allowed up to 2500 litres per year before you start to incur duty
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 9:39pm »
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It's a 2500 ltr limit on  new oil, waste oil & biodiesel, all you have to do is keep records but there is no need to register with the Customs & Excise unless you are using over the 2500ltr limit
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