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david49uk
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cossie road handling
« on: Nov 30th, 2009, 12:30am » |
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hi there im just wondering if any cossie driver as ever had road holding probs with the cossie, a couple of times i have come out of highland and the back end as gone from side to side also into some country road corners and once when i was traveling along a straight road . i have brand new tyes on the back got any idears, dave ps dont seem to be able to use any power at all you have to drive it like snail.
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #1 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 7:39am » |
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Hi well I frequently check this forum and have done so for someseven years now but I have never heard of this problem as for my personal experience this has not happened to me I would suggest that and examination of the rear end suspension should be undertaken but othet members may be able to clarify this a little more,
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #2 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 9:38am » |
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on Nov 30th, 2009, 12:30am, david49uk wrote:| ps dont seem to be able to use any power at all you have to drive it like snail. |
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When was the last time it had new spark plugs and oil change, as for the road holding, does the steering seem really light when this happens..........
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #3 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 10:08am » |
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Regarding the rear end problem....are the shocks okay ? 
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #4 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 11:23am » |
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Dave, do you mean there is excessive 'roll' in the suspention or the back end is over steering ( like the Stig going through bends ! ). I've noticed over the last few days i can provoke over steer very easily ( wet / slippy roads ). No real cure for that tbh, just a light foot & leave the TC switched on 
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #5 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 12:13pm » |
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Has no one picked up on this yet?
Brand new tyres will still be covered in mold releasing agent. It can take a few hundred miles for this to dissipate.
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #6 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 12:27pm » |
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I would also never put cheap tyres on the rear of a Cosworth. I only did it once and had the same issues Dave seems to be getting. It was like the car was on a skid pan. I changed them again after only 500 miles for Avon ZZ3's which held the road like it was glued there!
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #7 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 7:15pm » |
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I got good tyres on my Cossie estate and with T/C off I can drive it nicely sideways at some very silly speeds 
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #8 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 10:09pm » |
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What size tyres do you have on it David?
As you would expect the 15 " standard teardrop alloy tyres are narrower then the 16" 12 spoke tyres therefore dont have as much grip.
Although on a rear wheel drive car with 200 bhp spinning the rear wheels is fairly easy
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #9 on: Nov 30th, 2009, 10:39pm » |
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on Nov 30th, 2009, 12:13pm, amigafan2003 wrote:
Has no one picked up on this yet?
Brand new tyres will still be covered in mold releasing agent. It can take a few hundred miles for this to dissipate. |
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I thought it was December the first tomorrow not April the first
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #10 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 12:02am » |
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thanks for that highlander im running 225/55/16 12 spoke. will get the name of them tomorrow there from fastfit, dave
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #11 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 1:17am » |
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The name should be written on the side wall of the tyre Dave
Highlander wrote "As you would expect the 15 " standard teardrop alloy tyres are narrower then the 16" 12 spoke tyres therefore dont have as much grip."
Not necessarily true....in the wet, wider tyres tend to aquaplane easier because of the wider surface area
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #12 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 6:35am » |
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on Dec 1st, 2009, 1:17am, Jonnycab wrote:
Not necessarily true....in the wet, wider tyres tend to aquaplane easier because of the wider surface area |
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I agree here. I run 225/50R16 in summer season (conti sportcontact2 5mm front, Kumho KU-31 newish rear) and 205/65R15 (Fulda Kristall Ice 2 studded, newish, I'm from Finland) in the winter. I experience a lot less handling problems on worn road surfaces with the winter tyres.
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #13 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 11:59pm » |
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on the side of the tyre is triangle they were suposed to be good tyres according to fast fit they are w rating, dose this help
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #14 on: Dec 2nd, 2009, 11:44am » |
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My wifes got 225/50/16 Triangle TR918 V rated tyres on her 2.3 Ultima & for a budget tyre they seem pretty good.
The Michelin style asymmetric pattern seems too handle pretty well & not bad in the wet either. What really impressed me is that they are extremely quiet & give a really nice ride......for £50 a tyre, I have no complaints
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #15 on: Dec 2nd, 2009, 11:49am » |
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Maybe you just have a heavy right foot David
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #16 on: Dec 3rd, 2009, 12:13am » |
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mistake they are 50 not 55, sorry dave
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #17 on: Dec 3rd, 2009, 1:12am » |
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on Dec 2nd, 2009, 11:49am, Highlander wrote:| Maybe you just have a heavy right foot David |
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Or your shocks are past their best....don't forget, it's the shocks that really do help hold the car to the road by making sure the tyres are in contact with the road at all times.
Worn shocks can cause the wheels to loose grip, especially when cornering.
I didn't really realise this until I decided to change the rear shocks on my Scorp a while back. The improvement in handling was instant...it held the road so much better.
The old shocks still looked okay (no leakage), but they had done 190K miles....so probably way past their best
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #18 on: Dec 3rd, 2009, 8:25pm » |
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shocks were changed last september i have probally changed most things on the car, must have spent £800 on it in 11months, dave im going with the cheap tyes idear i went back to fast fit explained what the problem was he said o yes that is what u get with cheap tyres, i told him i wanted a good price not a death wish, will be getting sorted after xmas when things return to normallity,
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Re: cossie road handling
« Reply #19 on: Mar 15th, 2010, 4:52am » |
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Are granada mkIII front shocks possible to fit in scorpio?
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