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Hi gents, wife rang yesterday morning to say car would not start, when i got home last night tried it, started after a bit of effort not like usually, intantly, took it to work this morning to give it a run out, started instantly, battery showed 31.2 on self diagnostic thingy. astarted car this evening, started instantly, but i happened to be looking at dials and they spun , does this mean battery on way out?
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Re: battery
« Reply #1 on: Jun 22nd, 2010, 5:51pm » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2010, 5:35pm, gost wrote:| Hi gents, wife rang yesterday morning to say car would not start, when i got home last night tried it, started after a bit of effort not like usually, intantly, took it to work this morning to give it a run out, started instantly, battery showed 31.2 on self diagnostic thingy. astarted car this evening, started instantly, but i happened to be looking at dials and they spun , does this mean battery on way out? |
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13.2 I hope! 
Dials will always spin on starting after you do the dash diagnostic.
What engine is it you have again Bruce?
Is the battery rated high enough?
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Re: battery
« Reply #2 on: Jun 22nd, 2010, 6:37pm » |
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SORRY stuart meant 13.2 2,3 ultima, was new 12 months ago, prob is wife only does about 6 miles a day, not sure of rating but i did ask for high crank when i bought it
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Re: battery
« Reply #3 on: Jun 22nd, 2010, 7:34pm » |
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Sounds like that could be the problem, 6 miles probably wont replace the drain caused but starting it meaning its slowly discharging every time it starts
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 22nd, 2010, 8:02pm » |
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Makes sense Stuart, before she had an Omega, every year we had to re3new battery, what amps and crank should i be lloking for?
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Re: battery
« Reply #5 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 6:52am » |
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Bruce. The details for the battery are Here. It sounds as though it's the low mileage each day which is the problem as Stuart says. Mike
Have a look at one of These chargers and see if that might solve the problem. 
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 3:20pm » |
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thanks mike
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 6:29pm » |
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Might be worth getting one of those solar trickle chargers from Maplins - sit it on the top of the dash and plug it in the cigar lighter socket
Think they are only about £10 or £15
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 8:00pm » |
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Something like this
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Re: battery
« Reply #9 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 8:19pm » |
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on Jun 23rd, 2010, 8:00pm, tonyboy wrote:
Yes, just like that - cheaper than I thought !
Mate of mine has one on his Lotus Elan and reckons it does the job OK.
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Re: battery
« Reply #10 on: Jun 23rd, 2010, 8:46pm » |
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Thanks gents, will take all advice on board
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Re: battery
« Reply #12 on: Jun 25th, 2010, 1:45pm » |
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That's not a solar panel, but have got a aforementioned Maplin solar panel on mine does seem to work. Only, if car still not used enough it only postpones the inevitable, i.e. stick a mains charger on.
on Jun 22nd, 2010, 5:35pm, gost wrote:| started instantly, but i happened to be looking at dials and they spun , does this mean battery on way out? |
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It means battery isn't being charged enough. It's only got a low charge. Sure works the starter motor but my impression is the resulting low Voltage drop causes the dashboard to reset. I usually take this to mean "must plug in battery charger ASAP". Or take it for a long drive.
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Re: battery
« Reply #13 on: Jun 25th, 2010, 1:49pm » |
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Appendix ~
I did a test on the Maplin solar panel, it puts out a maximum of 120mA, but must have direct sunshine right on it, else it's naff. I usually have it on the back parcel shelf (facing South at home) but even then soon as clouds appear it's not doing much.
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Re: battery
« Reply #14 on: Jun 25th, 2010, 1:58pm » |
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Appendix #2 ~
I have one of these chargers that tests state of charge first, most often I have to leave it on 48 hours to make sure all the LED's light up on the test.
In Winter when the battery is cold it can take 3 days. This is starting at "20%" (or lower)
NB I put a cigar lighter plug on it so just plugs into the rear cigar lighter socket and mains extension lead out the bottom corner of the boot lid so can still be left all locked up for the duration.
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Re: battery
« Reply #15 on: Jun 25th, 2010, 3:05pm » |
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on Jun 25th, 2010, 1:45pm, Mike H wrote:| That's not a solar panel, |
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It was when I posted it just changed the link.
I simply stepped back (towards the top of the page) of the link tonyboy posted - it gives some solar chargers with a higher output.
on Jun 25th, 2010, 1:45pm, Mike H wrote:| It means battery isn't being charged enough. It's only got a low charge. Sure works the starter motor but my impression is the resulting low Voltage drop causes the dashboard to reset. I usually take this to mean "must plug in battery charger ASAP". Or take it for a long drive., |
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As Highlander wrote “Dials will always spin on starting after you do the dash diagnostic.”
In Bruce’s description that appears to be the cause of the flicking dials.
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Re: battery
« Reply #16 on: Jun 26th, 2010, 2:07pm » |
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No it can happen WITHOUT the dash diagnostic thingy!!!!!!
That's not what he wrote, he said he did the dash diagnostic thing one time to get the battery Voltage reading, then tried starting it again later at a separate time and THEN got the spinnig dial needles. Without the diagnostic
And in my experience, because I've had the exact same happen a few times, it means battery charge is critically low.
Before that stage is the "early warning", which is the ABS light comes on when you turn the key to start. To see that have to wait for all the lights to go out first before you actually start.
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Re: battery
« Reply #17 on: Jun 26th, 2010, 2:17pm » |
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Appendix ~ not sure if you mean dials spin next time even after you've turned it off at the time you did the diagnostic, doesn't alter the fact it can still happen cos it's happened to me
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Re: battery
« Reply #18 on: Jun 26th, 2010, 2:25pm » |
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Time you got your appendix out Mike
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Re: battery
« Reply #19 on: Jun 26th, 2010, 2:30pm » |
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on Jun 26th, 2010, 2:07pm, Mike H wrote:No it can happen WITHOUT the dash diagnostic thingy!!!!!!
That's not what he wrote, he said he did the dash diagnostic thing one time to get the battery Voltage reading, then tried starting it again later at a separate time and THEN got the spinnig dial needles. Without the diagnostic
And in my experience, because I've had the exact same happen a few times, it means battery charge is critically low.
Before that stage is the "early warning", which is the ABS light comes on when you turn the key to start. To see that have to wait for all the lights to go out first before you actually start.
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I never said it can't happen without the diagnostic, it is well documented that a failing battery is likely to cause the dials to reset.
I’m simply pointing out that in this case it may be due to having used the diagnostic. It will always reset after using the diagnostic and you can easily get caught out by it as the next time you turn on the ignition may be sometime later when you’ve forgotten that you checked the voltage by this method.
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