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Stixy
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Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:29am » |
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I am about to do an engine swap on a 96 Scorpio remove the 2.3 & manual box as it has a cracked block after the manifold cracked and previos owner boiled it to the point it stopped and wouldnt run .
I am not fitting another Scorpio engine but a 2.0 DOHC auto out of a J reg Granada . Mechanicaly & electricly it will all bolt together without problem but i am a bit unsure of the dash ? i have read that the ECU stores the vehicle mileage and the speedo doesnt has anybody else had any problems doing conversions ?
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #1 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 1:21pm » |
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Dont know if this helps, but i fitted the speedo from the red scrapper to my last cossie saloon ( just to see what happened ). It displayed the mileage that was true to the scrapper ( not the cossie ). So i guess you could say the speedo stores the mileage.HTH... Craig 
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #2 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 4:13pm » |
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Thats good to hear
its just i read it somwhere and i was unsure
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #3 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 4:48pm » |
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Me too, i think its actually on the site somewhere but dont think its correct
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 5:24pm » |
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Stixy.
I put the panel(low series with no computer)out of a Cossie limo into a 12v limo,the panel retained the Cossie mileage.
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #5 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 7:50pm » |
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Oh well i will find out soon
2.3 manual is out
And the 2.0 Auto is waiting
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:31pm » |
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Stixy.
Have you got the gear box electrics sorted,is it the old A4LD ? if not I would think there could be considerable complexity.I see it has the mechanical speedo drive,so imagine it is the old box.
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #7 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:41pm » |
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I have the complete EEC-IV engine/auto box loom from the J reg . it was a twin fusebox model and it uses the same plugs in the battery fusebox that the 2.3 does so it will just plug in just a few wires to sort behind the dash .
The engine in the pic is from a H reg Sierra it has done less miles than the Granada engine .it uses a vss and a mechanical speedo so its just a case of using an old vss to plug the extra hole and fit a drive pinion from a 2.3 autobox to the other vss then the selector and rod from the J reg .
Because the engine i am using is from a H reg car it wont need a Cat
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #8 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:46pm » |
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Going catless has got to be a bonus,will it be OK at the MOT place having a later reg number ?
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:49pm » |
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I FINK the emissions testing depends on the engine rather than the car so it would be tested as an H reg engine
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #10 on: Jul 6th, 2010, 8:51pm » |
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My MOT man says it goes on the age of the engine . As long as the engine didnt come out of anything newer than a K reg it wont need a cat test
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 7th, 2010, 7:06pm » |
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I removed the 2.3 engine loom today and fitted the Granada engine loom . All the fusebox plugs were the same but the multiplugs inside are different so i made up a lead to connect the three together .
All the dash works as it should and it shows the same mileage as before so it seems the mileage info is stored in the dash on 16v models
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #12 on: Aug 21st, 2010, 7:39pm » |
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Its in
Not quite the nut & bolt fit job that i thought it would be but they never are .
A tip for anybody if converting a manual to auto if the car has a three piece propshaft remove the extra mounts before fitting the engine & box
Still a few bits to do yet .
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #13 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 2:12pm » |
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It runs
everything seems to be ok apart from the rev counter is reading aprox 800-1000 rpm faster than it should be
The only difference i can see is the car now has a single ignition coil instead of 2 coilpacks .
Anybody any idea's
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #14 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 5:15pm » |
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ive read some where that cars with the dissy cap do run faster then the Edis systems, cant remember if it should be that much though
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #15 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 7:17pm » |
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on Aug 22nd, 2010, 5:15pm, Matt wrote:| ive read some where that cars with the dissy cap do run faster then the Edis systems, cant remember if it should be that much though |
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Hi Matt thanks for the reply . the engine tickover is fine its steady and sounds about right for this type of engine its jus the erratic high reading rev counter thats the problem . I have looked through the wiring diagrams and all engines except the 4 cylinder have an engine type resister in the engine loom i guess this is what tells the dash which engine is fitted .
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #16 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 7:19pm » |
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I have tried 3 sets of clocks and there all the same
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #17 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 7:54pm » |
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have you tried fitting the crank sensor off the old 2.3?
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Re: Mechanicaly Modified Scorpio's ?
« Reply #18 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 8:18pm » |
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on Aug 22nd, 2010, 7:54pm, Matt wrote:| have you tried fitting the crank sensor off the old 2.3? |
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There different so are the trigger wheels on the crank .
The signal from the crank sensor to the ecu and ecu to TFi module is fine . Its just the Scorpio dash cant make sense of the signal its getting from the coil . i am going to try a variable resister in the rev counter feed to see if it makes a difference
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