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goldie
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 hi guys i have a granada scorpio diesel estate and the front arms are out there tree the front wheel moves about 3 inches eaither way !!!
does anyone know where i can get these cheap
or if i can change the bushes ??
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #1 on: Oct 22nd, 2010, 9:21pm » |
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You can change the bushes attaching the track control arm to the antiroll bar,the Ford pattern allow some fore and aft movement,when I ran Granadas I used to buy heavy duty bush kits from motor factors which were solid rubber as against the two each side originals with bonded metal.They stop the movement completely,but don't tighten em up until the wheels are on the ground.Obviously if your ball joints are shot you need to replace the arms.
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #2 on: Oct 22nd, 2010, 10:10pm » |
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sorry goz mines the later ultima car i wasnt clear these arms are different !
any ideas ?
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #3 on: Oct 22nd, 2010, 11:33pm » |
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Ah,you have a Scorpio,similar rules apply really,the big rear bush is or was until very recently available about £15 from Ford,it is a void type bush,once again a little play is always present owing to that,but they do disintegrate allowing excessive movement,they are simple to replace.More and more parts are becoming obsolete from Ford,and are not always available as pattern parts.
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #4 on: Oct 23rd, 2010, 11:38pm » |
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you wouldnt happen to have a part number would you ??
cheers matey ! 
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #6 on: Oct 24th, 2010, 12:20am » |
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 thanks matey yer a star !! another quick question ?
i have a 2.5 turbo diesel are the gearboxes the same as 24v ?
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #7 on: Oct 24th, 2010, 6:50am » |
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on Oct 24th, 2010, 12:20am, goldie wrote: thanks matey yer a star !! another quick question ?
i have a 2.5 turbo diesel are the gearboxes the same as 24v ? |
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hi there
no, your td auto has the same type of gearbox as the 12v (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/autotrans.htm)
hth
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #8 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 7:05am » |
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on Oct 24th, 2010, 12:13am, Tompion wrote:
Has anyone found these made of polyurethane??
What bush is this? http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m51b0s4175p54982
says "1985 to 1996" ?? Didn't granada have same kind of suspension arm rearward bush?
picture of PU version=http://www.powerflex.co.uk/resize_image.php?image=19-103.jpg&w=250
could it be?
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #9 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 12:14pm » |
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on Oct 22nd, 2010, 10:10pm, goldie wrote:sorry goz mines the later ultima car i wasnt clear these arms are different !
any ideas ?
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Goldie's car isnt a Granada (despite what he thinks) thats where the confusion is coming from, its a Scorpio.
The "Ultima" is just a trim level, its not a model of car.
Granada (left) Scorpio (Right)
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Re: granada front arms
« Reply #10 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 7:53pm » |
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on Apr 10th, 2011, 7:05am, Tekno wrote:
Has anyone found these made of polyurethane??
What bush is this? http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m51b0s4175p54982
says "1985 to 1996" ?? Didn't granada have same kind of suspension arm rearward bush?
picture of PU version=http://www.powerflex.co.uk/resize_image.php?image=19-103.jpg&w=250
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That is a Granada diagram.
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Re: front arms
« Reply #11 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 7:55pm » |
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I know, but years 85-96 and "Scorpio" doesnt make any sense. 85-94 or 95-98 would be ok, but thats just
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Re: front arms
« Reply #12 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 8:00pm » |
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if Ford can't get it right there's no shame in Powerflex making a mistake too 
Goldie the front and rear bushes are available fairly cheaply but the balljoint is built into the wishbone and if it fails you need a new wishbone, they are not cheap new and available only as a Ford part.
I just spotted this thread is 6 months old! Can we assume he got the bushes?
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Re: front arms
« Reply #13 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 12:34am » |
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lol yes i did, got the bushes from ebay sweet as a nut now sorry i didnt post this earlier they were about 50 quid all in and the cars mint now no knockin or anythin !
all i need to know now is what auto gearbox is in my car as its a vm td engine is it the same as any other scorpio auto
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Re: front arms
« Reply #14 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 5:50am » |
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Why? What's wrong with it?
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Re: front arms
« Reply #15 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 2:05pm » |
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i put a post on here a while ago .
the box seems to be hangin onto gears till about 3000 revs then changes changed all the oil and filter nothing wrong with it
if you rev it hard it changes fine
was told by someone that it maybe a vacume solenoid or an electric solenoid that maybe faulty
any ideas ?
cheers
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Re: front arms
« Reply #16 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 3:18pm » |
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Not really, but having just had work done on mine, the 98 VM auto has electrical elements and is not the same as the 12valve box. does the kickdown work and do you have a full set of gears?
In my case I had no top or overdrive top, which had failed, now sorted and runs fine.
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Re: front arms
« Reply #17 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 3:58pm » |
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kick down doesnt work but do have all gears !?
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Re: front arms
« Reply #18 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 8:00pm » |
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Powertrain Control Module?
You could probably do with someone checking the OBD fault-codes to see if there are any faults registering. Whereabouts are you?
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Re: front arms
« Reply #19 on: Apr 11th, 2011, 10:04pm » |
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With the petrol engines if the mat gets under the pedal it's enough to prevent kick down, don't know if it's the same for the diesel.
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