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JimmyJaffa
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Engine conversion
« on: Jun 4th, 2011, 8:26pm » |
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Hi all, it's been a while since i have been on here due to my engine giving up and now it time to sort out my motor. i have a 2.9 EFI saloon (95). and was wondering if i could covert the engine to a diesel. If so would it be to much trouble and would i have to change the gearbox? Also what diesel engines would fit, many thanks, Jim.
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Matt
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #1 on: Jun 4th, 2011, 8:36pm » |
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Hi
In short your looking at changing :
Fuel tank and fill nozzel
Engine
Gearbox
Exhaust
Electrical modifications to ignition and starting system
Ecu change and intergration or bypass on pats
Would be easier putting a smaller petrol lump in
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #2 on: Jun 4th, 2011, 10:24pm » |
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Would be easier buying a diesel 
Its possible but quite a big undertaking
The Scorpio/Granada diesel engine would fit easy enough
but anything is possible 
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Dave2302
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #3 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 9:52am » |
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Agree with all the above...................
Also, why diesel
With the diesel being 5 ppl dearer than petrol now, plus the lack of lustre performance, they really arent cheaper to run anymore.
Coagulant is now being added to red diesel, so anyone wishing to take a chance will now end up with a fuel system full of jelly the minute they run low and put pump fuel in 
For me diesels are now a thing of the past.
I'd put another 2.9 in it and convert it to LPG
Good 12V's are a bit like rocking horse poop.
A 2.9 BOA 24V would be your easisest swap with your existing gearbox and wiring, ECU will almost plug and play, just a few wires to swap over at the plug (both engines use EEC IV Management). Your exhaust will fit with a little tweak on the O/S downpipe. All mounts flywheel (drive plate), converter etc are a straight swap
HTH Dave
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gozz
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #4 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 10:20am » |
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Just as a matter of interest I have an LPG kit that came off a 12v scrap estate,it is not a sequential system but the earlier type where the gas is drawn in via the intake hoses.
I now have no 12v engines on the fleet,so someone else may like to use it for a fair price.
GOZZ.
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #5 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 7:40pm » |
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P M sent Gozz
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #6 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 11:38pm » |
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on Jun 6th, 2011, 10:20am, gozz wrote:I now have no 12v engines on the fleet,so someone else may like to use it for a fair price.
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No 12v's? I thought you were a 12v man!
What are the ones you have? 2.3's?
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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gozz
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #7 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 11:59pm » |
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Fraid so Stuart,though I've now 'retired' ie only have three limos left,no hearses,my loyal customers have taken them on with a limo apiece,and are going it alone.I've had one limo 'gassed' and am filling the gaps left by my 'retirement'.I bought a grand Cossie limo the other day from a funeral director in Telford,it's all light blue leather,a Grosvenor built for some big gambling casino,curtains in the back window,fixed centre seat with three belts etc etc,can just imagine big Freddie getting pitched out of it into the Thames or the Clyde for not settling his debt 
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #8 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 1:03am » |
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Didn't think customer loyalty would be something you would see much of in the funeral business 
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #9 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 2:00am » |
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for me diesels are the way forward at speed i love mine BMW 530D 320bhp now and goes like nuts off a shovel and returns 32mpg my scorp td 0-60 some time in the future and not at great speed but i stil love her to bits
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #10 on: Jun 10th, 2011, 11:46pm » |
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Cheap tax & pulling power is only benefit of a diesel nowadays !
I mainly do motorway miles & pull a caravan now & then.
Steve
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #11 on: Jun 13th, 2011, 10:30am » |
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Cheap Tax
None of my diesels were ever cheaper than petrols, or does it only apply to new vehicles
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #12 on: Jun 13th, 2011, 9:53pm » |
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Yep, from 2001 & on !
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Baz
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #13 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 8:20am » |
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on Jun 6th, 2011, 11:59pm, gozz wrote:Fraid so Stuart,though I've now 'retired' ie only have three limos left,no hearses,my loyal customers have taken them on with a limo apiece,and are going it alone.I've had one limo 'gassed' and am filling the gaps left by my 'retirement'.I bought a grand Cossie limo the other day from a funeral director in Telford,it's all light blue leather,a Grosvenor built for some big gambling casino,curtains in the back window,fixed centre seat with three belts etc etc,can just imagine big Freddie getting pitched out of it into the Thames or the Clyde for not settling his debt
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Gozz,
we need some photos of this one!!
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Baz
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #14 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 8:21am » |
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My 2007 S Class 320 diesel is £425.00 a year to tax.... so where does cheap come into it
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #15 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 8:53am » |
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That's what I thought Baz
I thought after 2001 unless you're running a Micra or somesuch the tax works out dearer
Cheers Dave
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: Engine conversion
« Reply #16 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 4:36pm » |
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Well at £130 a year for the Focus !
Compare to a 1.8 petrol at £210 or a 2.0 petrol at £245
I'd say it's cheap
At the end of the day they want us all to be driving little shoe box cars !
For your merc Baz that is just crap !
Just the same as most small 4x4's no need for the price of the tax !
Steve
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