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2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« on: Sep 1st, 2011, 6:11pm »
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Hi hoping some body can help me with advice , I have a ford transit 2.0 petrol fitted with the same engine as the scorpio 8v .  
I parked on Friday night having just filled with petrol , went out on Saturday and she would not start , was fairly sure it was fuel related somehow , so asked a mate to squirt WD40 in the air filter system where she started up first time .  
Anyway changed the petrol filter and checked the petrol pump nothing .
Changed the engine coolant sensor nothing , clamped the fuel return line ( to check the fuel regulator ) nothing  
I have just checked the voltage to the petrol injectors and on first crank it coes to 8.75 Volts then down to less than 1 volt is this normal ?  
anybody had anything similar ? I have been told by Ford that maybe it needs a cold start relay but i do not even know where that is .
I know that this is not a Scorpio but it has the same heart ( and problems !!) hope somebody can help me soon as I need to go to work thanks in advance
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #1 on: Sep 1st, 2011, 9:58pm »
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It's always simplest to get a diagnostic plug in first,it should tell you something,regarding the cold start relay,maybe the Ford bloke thinks it's a diesel,they aren't used to petrol Trannys  Wink
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #2 on: Sep 2nd, 2011, 12:46am »
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two petrol transits with 2.0 8v s in just over a week.one with to mutch petrol one with no petrol.you have to get your codes read the obd port is in the top left hand corner of the fuse -relay box behind the spare fuse holder.
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #3 on: Sep 2nd, 2011, 2:51am »
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Hi already got the codes read but really did not tell me much , the code was u1262 !! I am not sure what that one is but suspect it means the code reader does not recognise the ecu .
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #4 on: Jan 24th, 2012, 1:25am »
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Hi guys sorry to reawaken an old post , my problem appears to be that there is no pulse to the injectors ie they are not being told to open , I have a spare vehicle now that is all working fine , so far I have swopped all of the ECU electronics over inc PATS module and sender unit and nothing .Also we have swopped over all of the relays etc and no difference .
Has anybody else had this problem with either the 2.0 8v or 16v or the 2.3 16v ? It looks like my next port of call is swopping over parts of the loom which is not some thing that I have done before .
Help me please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #5 on: Feb 1st, 2012, 1:12pm »
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Could be wrong but isn't the power supply to the injectors permanently 'live'? Could just be no 12V to the injectors? Willa nota verk without Grin
 
Could be dodgy wire then. (?)
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #6 on: Feb 1st, 2012, 3:44pm »
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+yes I am thinking dodgy wiring somewhere from the ecu under the engine bay , I took it to one garage who managed to get it running , they took out the ecu ( which was wet inside ) dried it out then put it back on and it started !!
But when they went back to it , it would not start again they then diagosed the ecu , which confused the issue for a while . I think that they disturbed the dodgy wiring removing the ecu , but I have now tried the ecu on my other van and it works perfectly .
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #7 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 12:49pm »
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on Feb 1st, 2012, 3:44pm, madmart wrote:
took out the ecu ( which was wet inside )

Not good news! That needs sorting sooner than ASAP ... to quote another member (think might have been PJDavis) Scorpio is like a computer on wheels; computers do not generally like being wet. So I'm not surprised summink's not working
 
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 23rd, 2012, 2:18am »
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well success at last turned out to be the eddis ignition amplifier , £12 later it was running thanks for all the help guys
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 23rd, 2012, 9:55am »
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on Feb 23rd, 2012, 2:18am, madmart wrote:
well success at last turned out to be the eddis ignition amplifier , £12 later it was running thanks for all the help guys

 
I bet that's a weight off your mind eh madmart ? there is of course always some well hidden fault,finding it can be a puzzle and can get you thinking the machine is possessed  Roll Eyes
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Re: 2.0 8v non starter fuel problems
« Reply #10 on: Feb 23rd, 2012, 1:35pm »
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