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heated front windscreen
« on: Jan 30th, 2012, 7:18pm »
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About 3 strips work on my front windscreen now, is there a simple fix or is it totaly useless?
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #1 on: Jan 30th, 2012, 8:43pm »
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They do fail over time...
If you have windscreen insurance and the screen has a crack in it I don't think it matters if the heated element works or not as to wether they will pay for a replacement.
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #2 on: Jan 30th, 2012, 9:09pm »
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Thought as much, its gone its gone huh! Got to decide whether to keep motor, it needs hell of a lot of work now.
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #3 on: Jan 30th, 2012, 10:31pm »
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You could try cleaning the connectors the feeds are easy enough but you have drill out the pop rivets on the side trims to get at the earths which are near the top corners.
 
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/windows/windscreen.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 1st, 2012, 4:21am »
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me and drills not good ...cheers
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #5 on: Feb 1st, 2012, 8:50am »
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Just for your interest, I had a new screen fitted last Feb, through insurance. Cost me £65.
Without insurance
£1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102
inc VAT. Phew
 
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #7 on: Feb 1st, 2012, 10:08pm »
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on Feb 1st, 2012, 8:50am, Scorp_Kev wrote:
Just for your interest, I had a new screen fitted last Feb, through insurance. Cost me £65.
Without insurance
£1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102 £1102
inc VAT. Phew
 
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Had mine done a bit over a year ago - £60 excess, total bill about £360 I think Huh
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #8 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 6:08pm »
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Mike, Mine was 60 excess, total bill for screen was under 300.00(autoglass) Wink
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #9 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 9:04am »
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I have checked the website given by Tompion.  This shows details for a 95 model, ie one connector in each corner of the screen.  Am I correct in thinking that the 98 Facelift model has two connectors either side of the bottom of the windscreen?  Has anyone, please, any idea of what current is drawn by the heated windscreen?  My screen is only working on one side - unfortunately the passenger side but since my wife usually drives from that position anyway it doesn't really cause too much of a problem!!
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #10 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:40pm »
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You need to check it again, it says "Disconnect the four heated windscreen connectors (two each side)."  Wink
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #11 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 3:47pm »
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Mine has 4 (2 each side)
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 4:30pm »
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on Feb 3rd, 2012, 9:04am, retiredjames wrote:
Am I correct in thinking that the 98 Facelift model has two connectors either side of the bottom of the windscreen?

Where did that info come from?
 
If drivers side only not working, maybe just need look at driver's side connectors?
 
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 5:16pm »
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My granada scorp and my 98 cosworth, the drivers side on both dont work, while the passenger sides do Huh.
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #14 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 5:32pm »
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Re Mike H's response - this info came from observation under the bonnet.  There are two wires coming out of the off side bottom of the screen and two wires coming out of the nearside bottom of the screen.  I can't see any wires at the top of the screen.  
 
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on Feb 3rd, 2012, 5:32pm, retiredjames wrote:
Re Mike H's response - this info came from observation under the bonnet.  There are two wires coming out of the off side bottom of the screen and two wires coming out of the nearside bottom of the screen.  I can't see any wires at the top of the screen.  
 
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The PDF is correct, the 2 wires (1 each side) that you can see with connectors are +.
The other 2 wires (1 each side) are earths, their connectors are at the top of the screen but you can’t see the connections unless you take off the side trims by drilling out the rivets. You have to lift the side rubber seal to see the trims.
 
The 2 wires on the driver’s side are for that side of the screen & the 2 wires the other side are for the other half of the screen.
 
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The bottom of the rubber seal clips into the trim:
 

 
The seal pulled from the trim & the rivets drilled:
 

 
With the trim removed one of the earth terminals can be seen at the top of the screen:
 
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #16 on: Feb 4th, 2012, 9:51am »
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Those are very useful photos Tomp'.   I wonder if they could be posted into the 'How-To' section so that if any of us needs to get a screen fitted, at least if we are at home we can show the 'fitter'.    (especially if he/she hasn't experienced a Scorpio before)
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #17 on: Feb 4th, 2012, 2:39pm »
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I’ll put some details in the 'How-To' section later.
 
on Feb 3rd, 2012, 9:04am, retiredjames wrote:
 Has anyone, please, any idea of what current is drawn by the heated windscreen?

 
With engine & windscreen on, tested on my recently fitted screen it’s 14 amps per side.
 
The resistance measured engine off between a positive windscreen terminal and battery earth was 1.4 ohms per side.
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #18 on: Feb 5th, 2012, 8:35am »
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Dave(Tompion) has now posted a detailed account in 'How to do Things'.  Thanks Dave.
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Re: heated front windscreen
« Reply #19 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 8:38am »
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Many thanks to Tompion for his information and photos.  I never thought that the top connection would be hidden away where you cannot easily get at it to test.  I think my screen will have to remain 50% serviceable and hope for warmer weather soon!  The details on current and resistance are most useful.  Thanks again.
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