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gase
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converting to a ford V8
« on: Mar 4th, 2012, 3:29am » |
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hi guys has any one tried putting a v8 302 engine into a scorpio. im concidering do it but was not sure if it would fit easily. im thinking the main trouble would be the engine mounts and if it would hit the standard scorpio steering rack. any advice
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #1 on: Mar 4th, 2012, 8:38am » |
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Yea a 302 should go in, you will have to check the gearbox tunnel.will be wide enough for the box
new mounts will have to be made but thats not a major job if you can use a welder
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #2 on: Mar 4th, 2012, 6:32pm » |
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Good one for the 'How to do' section? 
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Dave2302
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #3 on: Mar 12th, 2012, 11:23am » |
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Yeah, you will need the V8 Auto Box and a custom prop too.
If you use a V8 with EECV you should be able to get it to interact succesfully with all the Scorpio's other electronics, without needing to leave the existing ECU in the car, which I'm yet to see done succesfully anyways  ..........................
Make no mistake tho, it will be a good 3 - 4 weeks work to wire it all correctly so everything works as it should
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Scorpio_Mike
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #4 on: Mar 12th, 2012, 8:12pm » |
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Sounds like an interesting project
Plenty of people have dropped V8's into Granadas & Sierras and don't forget Ford made the Sierra XR8 for the South African market which I think had a 302 V8 
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Dave2302
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #5 on: Mar 13th, 2012, 10:10am » |
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That's very true, V8's have been put in all sorts, but not with so much electronics (Grannys, Sierras, I even fitted a V8 Chevy in a Fiat 500 LOLOLOL )
Yes it would be a relatively simple engineering excercise to fit a Carburrettored V8 and Hydraulic Auto gearbox into anythng Scorpio sized
The problem with doing it to the Scorpio, or indeed any modern car is then the dash clocks don't work, the alarm and PATS don't work, Climate and Fuel Computer don't work, the cruise control don't work etc etc etc, so then you have a pigs ear of a car which does 10 mpg and nothing works right.......................
(I'm not being @rsey BTW, this is meant in the nicest possible way) I love a decent project !!
As the yanks use EECV I suggested it because the Scorpio's PATS, Dash, Cruise, AC etc will recognise EECV so with some careful wiring, it can all be made to work, and should then do better than 10mpg
My recent projects have given me an in depth understanding of EECV, and once you get to grips with it it's brilliant, far better than any aftermarket management system
But it does entail complex, time consuming wiring, even for some so called "Auto Electricians"
HTH, and lets get it started !!
Cheers Dave
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #6 on: Mar 13th, 2012, 12:26pm » |
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Yea eecv is a cracking system
weve has a 24v running on a mondeo st ecu so its all possible!
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #7 on: Mar 13th, 2012, 9:45pm » |
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hi guys, thanks for the imput. im would be looking at working it into a stripped out scorpio and using it on the track so not that worried about the dash as i could replace it with new dials and stuff.
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #8 on: Mar 14th, 2012, 10:24am » |
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the 302 is not a fire breathing monster AS STANDARD .brouther hase a mk2 mustang rhd on a carb its rated at 138 bhp the same as a old 3lt
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Re: converting to a ford V8
« Reply #9 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 10:06am » |
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on Mar 14th, 2012, 10:24am, 5stud wrote:| the 302 is not a fire breathing monster AS STANDARD on a carb its rated at 138 bhp the same as a old 3lt |
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That one must be a Low Compression "Smog" Engine
235 BHP is normal with a very mild "Road" cam, decent compression ratio (around 8.75:1), and a 4 barrel carb on a factory manifold
As with any V8 it's the huge torque and the glorious noise that makes all the difference
With a "Rumpy Idle" Cam, decent inlet and 9.5:1 Comp Ratio I've seen them make 400 BHP, huge torque and they pull from 1100 rpm all the way to 7k
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