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lesterlad aka Rodders
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OBII Scanner ?
« on: Jul 8^th, 2012, 3:46pm »

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Does anyone know if this will work on the Scorpio ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BestDealUK-ELM327-OBDII-Diagnostic-Models/dp/B00 7WBOARE/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341755511&sr=1-17[url][/url]

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ADroste
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #1 on: Jul 8^th, 2012, 11:04pm »

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on Jul 8^th, 2012, 3:46pm, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:

Does anyone know if this will work on the Scorpio ?...

You as long term user of this forum should know that the Scorpio is wrong, since there are Scorpios that are not OBD-II compliant. But if yours is compliant than it should fit.
Google source:
ElmCan ELM327 IC for all 9 OBD2/EOBD-Protocols according

ISO 9141-2
ISO 14230-4 (KWP2000 fast und slow)
ISO 15765-4 (CAN 250/500 kB 11/29 Bit ID)
SAE J1850 PWM und VPW

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Mike H
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #2 on: Jul 9^th, 2012, 11:52am »

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As OBD2 was introduced 1996, if your car is older (or even circa 1996) will be OBD1.

As mine is.

OBD-I only came to be called OBD-I after introduction of OBD-II.

http://www.virtualmechanix.co.uk/onboard-diagnostics/history-of-onboard- diagnostics.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 3:07am »

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Did you get one , if so did it work ok? What year is your Scorp? Anyone know how to tell if I have OBD1 or 2 ?
Glyn

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Tompion
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1997 2.3 Ultima estate.

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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 9:02am »

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The date cars were required to have OBD11 & the introduction date isn’t necessarily the same. Unless you have a diesel or a 12v your’s will be OBD11.

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 9:02pm »

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Thanks Tompion, so my 2 Cossies will be obd11 and my 12v obd1 ? So I need to find one that will do both? Itake it they both use the same sort of plug?
Glyn

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Matt
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 9:14pm »

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the 24v's amd 2.3's are all OBDII, pretty sure all 2.0's were the same

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 10:54pm »

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Thanks Matt. Wonder what the 12v needs and if anyone has used one of these ELM327 leads.
Glyn

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Matt
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 25^th, 2012, 11:29pm »

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12v & TD uses the 3 pin Star system, give you 3 digit codes that you look up in a chart

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 26^th, 2012, 12:10am »

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Thanks Matt
Glyn

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Matt
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 26^th, 2012, 12:13am »

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list of the codes here

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/3digitcodes.html

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 26^th, 2012, 12:51am »

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Thanks again Matt-magic !
Glyn

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Simmo
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 26^th, 2012, 8:08am »

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Star reader Wink

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 27^th, 2012, 12:08am »

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Thanks Simmo thats useful
Glyn

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Dave2302
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #14 on: Nov 27^th, 2012, 10:49am »

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Whoaaaaa boys whoaaaaa..................

Those ELM and KWP systems will be worse than useless on Fords with EECIV (OBD1) and EECV (OBD2)

I have both, great for continental stuff like Merc's BMW's Fiat's Alfa's etc with Marelli, Bosch and Weber ECU's, but very limited on anything else.

For regular DIY on your Fords, Startester is great for OBD1, but for OBD2 Alex Pepper stuff so I'm told, never used Alex's gear tho.
If you really want excellence then some good deals can be had on SnapOn MT2500 Scanner or if you want the ultimate FORD FDS 2000, or Ford WDS (hard to get).
These can be picked up for bargain prices secondhand off E of the Bay these days, as garages are updating there equipment.
Snap On will do all your Airbag, Transmission, Engine, ABS etc...............
If you are a long term Ford Scorpio owner then the FDS is ultimate as it will allow you to reprogram CCM etc..............
Things like the indicators flashing on alarm setting, being able to open the boot from the keyfob when sat in car with engine running (Taxi Pack), etc etc

Just don't expect to get FDS for 50 quid lol cos I was really really lucky, but you should get one for £200 - £300 if you make offers punt around etc Wink

HTH,

Regards Dave

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 27^th, 2012, 11:40pm »

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Thanks Dave-useful info.Startester sounds ok for my 12v then.
Glyn

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Snoopy
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 28^th, 2012, 8:46am »

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To all those wanting to know about the star tester have a read of these old posts it might point you in the right direction for a Star Tester]

HERE

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Dave2302
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 28^th, 2012, 9:46am »

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Glyn,

Startester is fine on the EECIV cars like your 12V.

It is a rip of the Ford Startester that FMD's used before FDS 2000 came out Wink

HTH Dave

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #18 on: Nov 28^th, 2012, 6:02pm »

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Thanks Dave and I'll keep looking for an FDS2000 for the 24v's
Glyn

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Glyn
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Re: OBII Scanner ?
« Reply #19 on: Jun 2^nd, 2013, 12:18am »

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Well Dave, I took your advice and being unable to get an FDS 2000 reasonably, bit hte bullet and just bought a Snap-on MT2500. Have to learn to use it now but on first try on one of the cossies today managed to retrieve ABS code which I knew must still be in there and cleared the code. Just a shame the operators manual doesn't have a section specific to the Ford GB pod which I was using, still very satisfying.
Glyn

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