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« on: Jul 6th, 2013, 10:49am »
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The base/card that the velour is glued to has bowed downwards as well as the velour becoming detached...is this unusual ?  would it be a water leak ? cant see how,  sunroof drains are fine ?  any ideas ....John
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 6th, 2013, 5:25pm »
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Check around the Aerial for leaks they have been known to leak, but I would really have to presume it might be the onset of " old age" .
Ask Simmo he's old and droops occasionally like I do! Grin
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 6th, 2013, 9:35pm »
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ok tks for that ...will check out...john
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 7th, 2013, 9:58pm »
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John - yep, it's old age taking a hold Wink
 
Usually it's a combination of years of heat and the foam padding starting to degrade and lose contact with the fabric. IIRC, the headliner backing itself is a kind of glass fibre material and is usually OK.
 
I've repaired a couple in the past using aerosol contact adhesive, better if you can remove it from the car but you can probably do a reasonable job with it in situ, just be careful because that glue gets everywhere Smiley
 
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 7th, 2013, 10:43pm »
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Bruce Hi......its like x2 separate issues...lining has come away but also the rigid backing  is bowed ....if I tried to repair it would still be very odd as it is bowed by i would guess 3-4"
 
so the headlining backing is not ok ....it doesnt even resemble being flat!!   rgds john
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 8th, 2013, 9:35pm »
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As Bruce say's, age and heat will separate the lining to the point of a big bubble in the middle or small ones around the roof handles. I found it easier to remove the liner to do the job.
What I did find was that the foam padding deteriorates to a point where trying to re-stick it is pointless as the roof will look bumpy. I purchased a new headlining material with the foam attached and stuck it on with spray glue. Looks a treat if I do say so myself, it's also clean which most headliners are not through smoke, sunroof open etc. Cheers Lee
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 8th, 2013, 10:29pm »
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Thanks Lee....useful info...rgds John
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 10th, 2013, 10:20pm »
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Aye Lee, they do tend to go bumpy, I was tired when I wrote that post Smiley
 
Where did you get the headliner material from if you don't mind me asking?
 
John, it's been a long while since I did one, but from memory I remember the headliner base is fixed in places around the edge with metal tabs fixed to the bodyshell - it hasn't somehow slipped out of these has it?
 
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 10th, 2013, 11:06pm »
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Hi Bruce, I bought the headliner from Jim the Trim in Colchester, good price too. He also supplied the spray glue Wink  
John, I'd be surprised if it's bowed. You will need to remove it to find out. The headliner itself is not fixed anywhere in the middle, only by the grab handles, front and rear lights and a couple of plastic screws. You will also need to remove the pillar covers front, centre and back.  To remove from the car, it slides out of the boot. HTH lee
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 12th, 2013, 1:29pm »
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thanks for the feedback but I can assure you the hard backing is bowed.
I can press the centre and it moves up 2" or so plus the velour has separated hanging down from that. Thanks for info re how to remove..more concerned why its its bowed ..maybe water has got in but where?? a mystery   john
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Re: head lining drooped
« Reply #10 on: Jul 12th, 2013, 2:38pm »
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A poorly fitting or split drain hose is a possibility.
If you have an estate I assume the rear washer hose runs above it & could leak.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 12th, 2013, 6:54pm »
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thanks..its a saloon  ....maybe i should check the sunroof drains ...obviously no way to check connections without removing headlining  or is there ?    john
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Re: head lining drooped
« Reply #12 on: Jul 13th, 2013, 9:40am »
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John, the usual method of clearing the drain holes is to use a piece of flexible curtain wire or similar about a metre or so in length and push it down the holes in the corners.  Smiley
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