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jorgei
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Home Diagnostics
« on: May 14th, 2008, 12:48pm » |
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Hi folks, I'm new on this, and have already read the section about the, but didn’t understand the section how to connect the cable from the car to the computer. By that I mean how the cable is built up (pin to pin connection). I see you people are referring to several suppliers but not how to come in contact with them.
So, my question is: 
- Can I make this cable by my self?
- What is the price on this?
- Any webpage’s about this?
I know I have to start somewhere, but can’t pinpoint were.
My car is:
2.0i-16V Sedan / Kombi 136 10.94-08.98 N3A
Modell: Scorpio, 95-98
KW: 100
Volum: 1998
Sylinder: 4
Karosseri: GNR/GGR
TecDoc: 4697, 4701
RB Nøkkel: FOR 1556, FOR 1547
Do you need any more info?
Br
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jorgei
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #2 on: May 14th, 2008, 10:08pm » |
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I have looked into this page: http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/homediag.htm
And also the pages you have writhed down, so fare so good, but next:
I’d been into the "www.obd-2.com” page, but it seems to me that I can't use this program nor have I just misunderstood? It's says that I must use:
Connector Location:
1996 Ford Scorpio connector position not available
Network:
1996 Ford Scorpio network is PWM
And therefore this solution: PWM- $122 + USB adapter $12 + 3 day Ship Free = $134
I must use the USB port.
Can I stile use than same software "Car Code OBD-2"? Or do I have to order something completely different?
I know some off you thinking “what a hell is he talking about”, same did I to begin with.
But anyway the car is beginning to a bit old and I’m not interested to pay a lot of money in repair work as long I can do this by my self. I’m an engineer of educated, but still this will be a new area for me anyhow I see it.
So there for this slow starting “I want to have all the information inside my head before I start doing some thing”
NB: thank you for answering my anyway.
BR
Geir
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #3 on: May 14th, 2008, 10:14pm » |
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Hi Jorgei,
when you buy the cable you'll get an 'activation code' that will allow the software to run.
You don't have to buy anything else 
Then just follow instructions on site to start scanning
Paul
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jorgei
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #4 on: May 15th, 2008, 12:19am » |
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Ok, I’ll give it a try and will order one to day, and hopefully I will be up and running within two weeks.
BR
Geir
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #5 on: May 15th, 2008, 1:06am » |
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Hi. You can buy seperate software with more features but the default software (in this case the OBD-II one) is normally pretty good, I downloaded the demo and it seemed well featured.
Yes, you need a USB or serial port depending on the scanner, I've got an Elmscan USB and some extra software which does live graph readouts and can output to spreadsheets but the basic software which comes with the Elmscan can still read sensors and reset fault codes fine.
Hope this helps
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #6 on: May 15th, 2008, 10:34am » |
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Yes, I hope so to. See you in two weeks. Going back to the oil rig now.
Br
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #7 on: Jun 5th, 2008, 12:56am » |
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I'm back and got the parts, tried to connect to the car without any result. Can't see that I doing anything wrong either.
Going to check it ones more to morrow.
Night.
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #9 on: Jun 5th, 2008, 12:36pm » |
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No, didn't work either, must be something wrong some odder place.
Still looking.
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #10 on: Aug 4th, 2008, 1:15am » |
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Hi folks
I'm back again from a longer trip.
Now back to the problem. I can't connect to the PCM controller, and there must be something from the plug to the controller or something with the controller it self. Is there someone that has the wiring number from the plug to the controller? Want check these first.
Have anyone had this problem before?
Have tried the software program on a Mondeo 96, and got connection right away. So the installation of the software and notebook is correct.
Well, it's your turn now to come up with solutions now. 
Never mind if the translation is not correct.
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Jorgen from Norway.
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #11 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 1:18am » |
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I'll believe I'm got the wrong one, or have I misunderstand everything here?
I have ordered from: http://www.obd-2.com/dlcnet.html
and from this site my Scorpio is an "PWM", but from the web side: http://www.myscantool.com/vehicles.html#ford
My car is an "ISO".
Can any one confirm that the web "obd-2.com" is selling the wrong one?
I tried to contacted Alex C. Peper, but only getting error message back, the this web do not accepts mails?
Maybe this is the reason why I can't connect to my car.
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #12 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 6:53am » |
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hi there
the scorpio is pwm for the engine side of things and iso for the abs, etc side.
i'd double check the settings again and then have a look at the plug connector on the car to make sure all the pins are ok.
i've heard of some very late 2.3's not connecting but not a 2.0.
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jorgei
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #13 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 1:22pm » |
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I've already checked the plug, and there is no problem with this one. I'll used the same settings then I connected to the Mondeo, and this car connected strait away, but not mine. Have used several settings that have been printed in this forum, but without any luck so fare.
Have you a final set up list that I can use?
This is the last set-up I'll have.
And the driver is: http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/hl-340.exe, this is the file that followed the software I got from the US.
So the only thing left now, is wiring from the plug and to the PWM box. Do you have the wiring plan over this part. Going to start on this to day.
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Jørgen
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #14 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 2:48pm » |
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on Aug 5th, 2008, 6:53am, scorpio_man wrote:
i've heard of some very late 2.3's not connecting but not a 2.0.
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This is interesting - any more info on the 2.3s not connecting?
I have the same problem and at the Kent meet we found my OBD set up could connect to Dave's (Tompions) car but not mine and no ones elses OBD set up could connect to mine either!
I am planning to try a battery disconnect and then re-try but I havn't had time!
Jorgei - may be worth trying the same - I have the wiring
diagrams on my web site - the one you want should be here
Dave
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #15 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 3:03pm » |
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These are the settings I use for my Tricom with serial port connection (although I don't now tick Protocol/manuf. enhanced login & I do tick Interface/fast Trican Tricon Indo-3):
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #16 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 3:28pm » |
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Have already disconnected the battery, without any changes.
Going out to the garage now with the wiring drawings.
Will be back in ca 1 hr.
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #17 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 5:53pm » |
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Some updating from last time:
thanks to Daven, I'm manage to test, and check the wiring fast and easy. So, now what ??
Everything from the DLC connector to the EEC-V is correct, and whit out any problems there.
You can see this from my scanned pages: http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/File0004.PDF
And an overview over the EEV-V with and without starting block. sorry, haven't got time to translate jet.
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/File0005.PDF
Have to look into the software or the blue cable, the problem is here, some were.
If there are someone out there that have a Scorpio 2.0 DOHC, and using the same program. pls come forward and tell me what set up you ar using in the software.
Some pictures:
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0161.JPG
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0162.JPG
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0163.JPG
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0164.JPG
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0168.JPG
http://www.car.joergensen.no/images/IMG_0169.JPG
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #18 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 7:15pm » |
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I am in the same spot - will watch this thread with interest - I have tried so many ways no and even a code reader JonnyCab had at he Kent meet wouldn't connect! 
Good luck Jorgei
Dave
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Re: Home Diagnostics
« Reply #19 on: Aug 5th, 2008, 8:13pm » |
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Do you get a green light at all? or only Y and R.
Going out for renting a video, given up to day.
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