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Froscio
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Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« on: Oct 31st, 2008, 1:36pm » |
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Hello guys, newbie from Norway here. Just bought a 1995 2.0 16V, and it has some issues. The ABS/Traction Control lamps is on, and the engine misfired under light load.
So i discovered this wonderful site, with a ton of info.
It was suggested here that my car is OBD2 compliant, so i ordered this scan tool from : http://www.obd2allinone.com/sc/details.asp?item=obd2usb
Well, to my big surprise it did'nt work ! I tried several of the usual software, and even sent a log file to one of the producers of these. He said from the file that it was typical for a OBD2 NON-compliant car !
What
So my question is:
Is Alex Peppers leads and software the only one that works on these cars? And is it because he modified it to work on them?
And will it work on my 1995 year model, or is it only from 1996 and on?
Please help me, i need to get the car fixed.
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 31st, 2008, 2:10pm » |
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Are we dealing with a Ford Scorpio and not a granada . The site is for the Ford Scorpio 1994/1998 the one with the frog eyed front as in the picture at the top of the page.
If its the older Granada then its NOT OBDll compliant and requires a star reader. If its the newer one It is as far as I know OBDll Compliant. But I am sure others will know more than me .
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Froscio
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 31st, 2008, 2:22pm » |
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Yes, this is the Frogeye Scorpio.
The reply i got from the OBD2 software guy was that a 1995 year model COULD NOT be OBD 2 compliant, since it did'nt start until 1996. This was an american software though.
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 31st, 2008, 3:30pm » |
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hi there
yes, it's obd2.
to check abs/tc you would need the tri-can lead from obd-2.com , but it costs $240 (you can use it on other cars, though). 
your best bet is to post in the problem section and await some replies. post as much info as you can about your problems. 
hth
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #5 on: Oct 31st, 2008, 5:46pm » |
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hi there
easier if you just email him.
you can get an option for the trican (future proof  ) is you enter year 2004 and all models.
hth
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 3rd, 2008, 10:10am » |
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Which mail adress should i use to contact Alex P.?
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 3rd, 2008, 12:38pm » |
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I take it you went via the Vehicle Network, Connector Locator and Scan Tool Selector link.
If instead you click on order at the top of the home page then select your payment method you can order the lead you want.
e.g. cedit card:
http://www.obd-2.com/cc.html
Paypal:
http://www.obd-2.com/paypal.html
At the bottom of either page is a sales email address.
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Froscio
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 3rd, 2008, 1:18pm » |
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Ahh, there you go, thanks a lot Tompion. I did not try that page. 
I guess this is what i need then:
TriCom Most Vehicles with integral connector - $182
And regarding shipping, what should i click, this one:
2 day U.S.P.S tracked confirmed Priority and Global - $4
or this one:
Global Express - $24
Both say global.
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 3rd, 2008, 1:59pm » |
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I use the tricom, but if you want to use it on more vehicles go for the trican.
Depends how quick you want it as to which global to go for.
If you need a usb adapter it’s best to get one from Alex while your at it, as other adaptors can be troublesome.
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 3rd, 2008, 4:14pm » |
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Yes, you are right: i am in a hurry: Global Express it is.
And i tought about that USB adapter, so i am surtain it all works. I'll put in an order tonight then. Thanks alot for your help, guys.
PS: regarding reading other cars: as you see in my first reply, i already have an "multi" OBD2 reader. 
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 8:43am » |
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Hmm, he does'nt answer my e-mails !
Anyone had contact with him lately?
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 9:32am » |
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I gather from other posts that replying to emails isn't his strong point 
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 11:58am » |
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I understand.
My point is: Will it work if i order this:
TriCom Most Vehicles with integral connector - $182
Or does he need to know that it is for the Scorpio?
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #14 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 2:53pm » |
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I just ordered using the online form selecting the box you mention.
I think there was somewhere in the process a message box where I asked “Please advise if this will not read ABS codes on a 1997 ford Scorpio (as it was recently recommended for this on the fordscorpio.co.uk forums).”
He confirmed on the email receipt “Yes, will support the ABS brakes OK”
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 5:10pm » |
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Thanks a million Tompion. Then i will order.
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 13th, 2008, 6:47pm » |
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Well, i got the tricom lead from Alex the other day, and i have been trying for 3 days now, but i can't get it connected to my car. Bummer. I have done it like it says here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OBD;action=displ ay;num=1157053906
But nothing happens. I have tried VE version 155, 154 and 136. 2 different USB cables, reinstalling both VE and USB drivers numerous times.
Here is 2 logs:
Thu 13 Nov 2008 version 1.54
19:18:28.6 - initializing serial port
19:18:28.9 - connected rs232 port 2
19:18:28.9 - Initializing vehicle using Blue Router
19:18:29.6 - Log In #1 SAE J1850 PWM @ 130
19:18:29.6 - over len= 7F
19:18:30.2 - over len= 40
19:18:30.2 - over len= 49
19:18:30.7 - timeout 5 mode= $01
19:18:30.7 - no response
19:18:30.7 - Login #1 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:18:33.5 - no response
19:18:36.2 - Log In #2 SAE J1850 PWM @ 130
19:18:36.2 - active bus
19:18:36.7 - over len= 40
19:18:36.7 - over len= 49
19:18:37.3 - timeout 5 mode= $01
19:18:37.3 - no response
19:18:37.3 - Login #2 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:18:39.4 - Sync=80 W1=0
19:18:39.4 - Key1=57 W2=0
19:18:39.4 - Key2=02 W3=0
19:18:39.4 - Addr=80 W4=0
19:18:42.2 - Log In #3 SAE J1850 PWM @ 130
19:18:42.2 - active bus
19:18:42.7 - over len= 40
19:18:42.7 - over len= 49
19:18:43.4 - timeout 5 mode= $01
19:18:43.4 - no response
19:18:43.4 - Login #3 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:18:45.4 - Sync=80 W1=0
19:18:45.4 - Key1=57 W2=0
19:18:45.4 - Key2=02 W3=0
19:18:45.4 - Addr=80 W4=0
19:18:48.0 - Log In #4 SAE J1850 PWM @ 130
19:18:48.0 - active bus
and the older VE136:
Thu 13 Nov 2008 version 1.36
19:02:35.3 - initializing serial port
19:02:35.6 - connected rs232 port 2
19:02:35.6 - initializing vehicle using blue router
19:02:36.3 - Log In #1 SAE J1850 PWM @ 120
19:02:36.3 - active bus
19:02:36.7 - over len= 40
19:02:36.8 - over len= 49
19:02:37.2 - timeout 4 mode= $01
19:02:37.2 - no response
19:02:37.2 - Login #1 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:02:40.4 - no response
19:02:43.2 - Log In #2 SAE J1850 PWM @ 120
19:02:43.2 - active bus
19:02:43.7 - over len= 40
19:02:43.7 - over len= 49
19:02:44.2 - timeout 4 mode= $01
19:02:44.2 - no response
19:02:44.2 - Login #2 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:02:47.3 - no response
19:02:50.0 - Log In #3 SAE J1850 PWM @ 120
19:02:50.0 - active bus
19:02:50.5 - over len= 40
19:02:50.5 - over len= 49
19:02:50.9 - timeout 4 mode= $01
19:02:50.9 - no response
19:02:50.9 - Login #3 ISO 9141-2 @ 120 10 25
19:02:54.1 - no response
19:02:56.7 - Log In #4 SAE J1850 PWM @ 120
19:02:56.8 - active bus
19:02:57.2 - over len= 40
19:02:57.2 - over len= 49
19:02:57.3 - terminated scan
19:03:00.9 - overwriting C:\DOCUME~1\JAN-BS~1\MINEDO~1\EGNEPR~1\VE136O~1\NOCONECT.dat
19:03:00.9 - saved 0 messages 2 KB to :
C:\DOCUME~1\JAN-BS~1\MINEDO~1\EGNEPR~1\VE136O~1\NOCONECT
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 13th, 2008, 7:47pm » |
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hi there
just went through this same issue with stafford.
it's the usb driver (i think  ) that's the problem.
i'd use VE version 151.
you'll need to completely remove the driver first (and restart your pc afterwards). then try again.
also download the ford files, if you haven't already.
hth
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #18 on: Nov 13th, 2008, 9:30pm » |
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Thanks, i will give it a go then.
But what USB driver is correct then? The one i got from Alex is NOT prolific, but the one for my other USB cable was prolific, but it did not help. Altough with this cable i got one step furter in the log: "active bus". Don't know if it is important though.
Got a link for the good driver ?
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Re: Can a 1995 2.0 16V be OBD2 scanned?
« Reply #19 on: Nov 14th, 2008, 9:38am » |
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hi there
i've put the driver on my multiply site, but you might need to be a member to get it.
just apply and i'll make you a member.
http://fordscorpio.multiply.com/journal
hth
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