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« on: Sep 30th, 2004, 9:31pm »
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Do any of you knowledgeable bunch have any information or recommended companies that export vehicles from the UK?
 
My move to the states means I have to leave the scorp behind which is really killing me!!! I've already got my eyes on a few Ford Crown Victoria's over in the US but although these monster 5.0 V8's are fast they also lack in the 100's of gadgets the scorp has to offer.  
 
I know importing the scorp to the US is going to be expensive, but I just couldn't part with her. Plus I’ll be needing a small economical car for those short journeys Grin
 
I can find plenty of info regarding importing to the UK but not exporting. so if anyone has any experiences or good exporting contacts please let me know.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 30th, 2004, 9:50pm »
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I might be able to help out.. My son and his friends are taking a load of Caterham Sevens to the USA next year and they are going by boat will find out who is doing it for them, and post back....
 
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 30th, 2004, 9:55pm »
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Snoop, thanks for the quick response! yes please keep me informed!  
 
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 30th, 2004, 10:10pm »
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Hi Danny,
 
A mate of mine was/is looking into relocating to Florida (he wasn't planning to take his Saxo though - dunno why  Smiley). He did say that the easiest way to do things was from the import into the US side - i.e. use a US importer to bring your stuff out of the UK as all the hassle is getting it into the US.
 
You've probably seen it but http://www.importexporthelp.com/importing-cars.htm looks like a good place for info on getting cars into the US.  
 
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 30th, 2004, 11:25pm »
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Hi Dave mate, cheers for the link, some interesting information there.  
 
I think you might be right about importing from the US side. I’ll wait and see if snoop comes up with anything.
 
LOL, the Scorpio wont look out of place over there but a saxo!!!!  
 
Yep like I mentioned to you before Dave, this unmarked Crown Vic I seen is the P71 Police Interceptor Crown Victoria version surplus to the orange county police department in Orlando. Spec includes: Highly tuned 4.6 litre V8, 305BHP!! Cheesy Twin Exhausts, up rated brakes, up rated chassis, air suspension, up rated auto box and rear Axel.
 
No road tax to pay, no annual MOT and I can insure this beast for $150 a year about £120.
 
Petrol in Orlando is currently averaging 90 cents a gallon Shocked at those prices I’d be able to fill the tank on the scorp every time Cheesy
 
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 7:23pm »
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My mate races the big V8 at Rochingham in the Days of thunder and last year he shipped his car and other bits to USA if you have trouble after all these people have helped get in contact and I'll ask him where he went to ship it  
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 7:27pm »
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on Sep 30th, 2004, 11:25pm, Danny_R wrote:
Hi Dave mate, cheers for the link, some interesting information there.  
 
Yep like I mentioned to you before Dave, this unmarked Crown Vic I seen is the P71 Police Interceptor Crown Victoria version surplus to the orange county police department in Orlando. Spec includes: Highly tuned 4.6 litre V8, 305BHP!! Cheesy Twin Exhausts, up rated brakes, up rated chassis, air suspension, up rated auto box and rear Axel.
 
 
 
   Is it a model made before catalytic converters? It will run good on regular gas then..........
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 7:39pm »
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1. Check the Crown Vic out before you buy - they drive like pigs compared to the Scorpio
 
2. Check your info re gas prices - US Gas is now $1.75 average and $2.10 in places and heading upwards at an alarming rate
 
3. Watch out for insurance - cheap car insurance is something to be very careful of. We are in Las Vegas and don't yet have our Nevada driving licenses (you need to take a written and driven test) and our insurance on our Chevy Venture 1999 minivan is over $3000 per year.
 
4. There are a lot of weird rules regarding importing cars that have not been sold in the US and it will be expensive. We wanted to bring our Smart car over but the cost was horrid and there was no guarantee of getting it approved (it's similar to the SVA in the UK). You can bring any car in for 12 months but then it HAS to be exported.
 
5. Best way is shipping by container so you can add household good etc (if you ship a car as a car then it cannot be filled with household items etc) - reckon on approx 2500-3000 for the container costs plus clearance fes.
 
Due to the very low cost of cars over here I cannot recommend shipping a Scorpio, fun as it would be. There are plenty of great cars over here and lots of gadgets available. For example I have just installed a full Computer with Touchscreen in the Chevy with MP3 player, DVD video, satellite radio, Sat Nav and voice activation etc for less than $1000.
 
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 8:43pm »
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Hi Nick, the Crown Vic is a 1999 model. I would of thought it has cats on it, but the police interceptor models vary in quite a lot of ways to the standard ones.
 
I’ve posted a few pics up of it.
 
http://www.anyboard.net/autos/cars/scorpio/posts/290.html
http://www.anyboard.net/autos/cars/scorpio/posts/291.html
http://www.anyboard.net/autos/cars/scorpio/posts/292.html
 
Steve, thanks for that advice mate. re the crown Vic, I hear what your saying about the steering on them. I’ve spent a lot of time talking to the guys at the crown victoria forum website http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/index.php  
they tell me post 97 police interceptor models are the ones to go for. The back axle’s were completely redesigned and the chassis made tighter to reduce roll. However these changes were only made on police spec ones.  
 
Lee, regards the exporting, any contacts, prices or information you can find would be most appreciated mate.  
 
Steve, it would make lots of sense to get a container for other items too. Just out of interest would I be able to get hold of a power converter (240 to 110)? I got a lot of expensive HIFI separates which I would want to take out.  
 
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 12:52am »
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Petrol hit another high today - $2.16 a gallon Sad
 
The car will still handle like a pig compared to a Scorpio Smiley - they are comparing the performance to other US vehicles rather than European ones.
 
Container is definitely the way to go - less hassle all round and secure shipping.
 
Yes you can get 110V - 230V step up transformers. Good ones are not cheap however and I'm not sure of how hi fi equiment will perform and whether they will hum etc.
You can order a 220V power circuit from the local power company however I have a feeling that it might be 60Hz rather than 50Hz.
 
Good luck with the move.
 
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 9:22am »
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Danny,
 
can I ask why you are going overseas again??
 
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 11:09am »
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Hi Steve,
 
Thanks again for the advice. Much appreciated.
 
Baz,  
 
Many things have decided to make me go back again! My girlfriend lives in Orlando so i’m wanting to be with her, but mainly I’m just tired of this country mate. I find myself coming out of university with a degree in information systems and network management which isn't worth the paper it’s written on as many companies are looking for people with experience or like many companies are outsourcing all their IT services to India which is continuing to get worse. I’ve spent the last few years working with local companies desperately trying to gain this experience and start the long climb up the ladder. I'm getting paid next to nothing, getting taxed to the eye balls, I don’t have a hope in hell getting my foot on the property ladder!!! so in a nutshell I’m going over for quality of life. I’ve thought long and hard about doing it and come to the decision that if I don’t do it now I never will.
 
3 major IT firms in Orlando have already expressed a keen interest in my IT skills and are dealing with the work permits for me. I have an advantage on my skill sets against most of the american applicants and they seem pleased that i've had some hands on experience. so all seems ok at the minute.
 
BTW the hurricanes add the fun lol
 
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 1:42pm »
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Danny here is the link I promised... I hope its of soe use in your quest
 
http://www.shippers.dircon.co.uk/
 
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Hi snoop, thanks for the link mate, much obliged
 
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 5:12pm »
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That's why me, kaz and connor are after going to France with my business partner and his wife and kiddie.
 
Quality of life and a government that this of its own taxpaying people (of which I will be one!!) rather than sponging immigrants who just want a free life at our expense. As you know I run my own business and since this lot have gotten in for the second time, my company tax bills as well as red tape have got bigger and bigger and now because my house is worth 200k more than I paid for it, they assume I have this money somewhere hidden away and they are looking to tax me on it!!
 
Good luck to you and I wish you well, thankfully I can stick my scorp on a ferry and take it with me!!
 
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Hi there,
Having moved to the USA at the end of 1998 then back to the UK last year again and coming from a logistics background I should point out that if you are looking to ship a vehicle to the US it would be best to use a specialist car company handling vehicle shipments and for your belongings use a company that packs your belongings in the UK and provides full unpacking in the US, inclusive of removal of all rubbish/old packing material.  The main reason for doing this is that you pass over all liability to the shipping company for the care and safe transit of your belongings.
I know that many people will try and go for the cheapest option but in areas such as this it's simply not worth going for the cheapest option.  The rule of thumb is that 'all' shipping companies offer a mediocre service at best and if you find a company that you are prepared to put your business with then you are basically dealing with the best of a bad bunch.
I have many years experience on dealing with shipping companies and can probably write a book on all their tricks and the horror stories, just make sure you are adequately insured too and read all the small print. pay particular attention to details such as 'we (the shipping company), are not liable for any extra charges caused by transport or Customs delays'.
The other option would be to sell up everything (you are going to have to sell all your electrical items anyway), and then buy new when you arrive in the USA. Your money goes alot further in the USA and I am sure that you could easily replace most necessary items for less than you would ever expect to pay over here in the UK.
As for buying a car in the USA I would recommend that you wait until you arrive before even developing a shortlist of cars.  Get round the dealers see what's on the sales lots and how far your money will go.  Remember too that Brits have a reputation for being an easy sales target among US car dealers, most Americans when buying a car will plan to spend all-day at a dealership haggling with the dealer to get the car at the right price, whereas we Brits just want to get the deal done and get out.  I always found too that Americans do not look after their vehicles as well as most Brits do and the quality of secondhand cars on the private market in my experience are often quite poor for the money.
I am sure that are fellow list members who are now resident in the US can give you lots of advice, but my final recommendation is this; this comes from one of the basic principles of Quality systems management - 'Question everything'.  Verify everything you are told, especially by the Americans, they have the initial impression of coming across as experts but make sure you double check any advice and that includes dealing with professional people such as attorney's too.
Hope the move goes well, pity you are not going to be in the Sacramento area of California as I could put you in touch with some friends of mine there that run their own IT company.
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Baz, thanks for that mate.  
 
I have no intentions of coming back to UK at all apart from coming to see family etc.. but I can imagine how hard it must be with your own business, company cars etc.. I bet the tax man is rubbing his hands together. Like I said before mate if I don’t do it now I’ll probably be here for the rest of my life! I really hope you decide to pack up and go and I hope it all works out.  
 
I'll miss the meetings etc.. but the Scorp hook or by crook will be coming with me.
 
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DJWerkz, thanks for all that information mate. Thanks very much for the points about the shipping companies. Naturally you start looking for the cheapest companies but you don’t really think about the small print and all the other problems that may follow.  
 
Yeah is a shame I wont be near California. I'm trying to get as many contacts as I can out there. In reality I’ll do whatever it takes to make it a success.  
 
Thanks again for the info mate.
 
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No problem Danny, anytime and if you need to ask me any questions about anything, including employment with American companies just give me a shout.
I also have a superb immigration attorney based in Reno, Nevada who I fully recommend having gone through at least two other attorneys in this field that left me with a not too complimentary comments on their service and abilities.
We do have a family member who is the Director of Career Development at the University of Umass. in New Bedford (nr Boston).  He has numerous contacts around the US in placing qualified professionals.
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 4th, 2004, 2:09pm »
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Hi DJWerkz,
 
thanks again mate.
 
i've sent you a PM.
 
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