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Baz
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Dealer exagerations!!
« on: Jan 6th, 2005, 10:10am » |
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Just had a look on EBay and there is a guy selling a 1998 Silver facelift 16v which has 47000 on the clock. Nice ultima spec and looks good (looks like mine actually so it must do!!)
The bit that made me laugh was part of his description and I quote "Finished with Brilliant Silver coachwork and contrasting Raven Connolly hide upholstery with Burr Walnut veneer dash and cappings" I think he may be getting a bit confused with a Bentley or something because mine certainly doesn't have connolly hide nor does it have burr walnut dash and door cappings!!
Also the headlamp washers are missing oh and it has had a new speedo and is only showing 26000 miles.....suddenly doesn't look quite soooo goood
Baz
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9844&it em=4507333838&rd=1
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waders
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Hmmm.... missing washers  ......crash repair and only washer model bumper avail  .......crash repair done on the cheep and not replaced  .........crash  .........
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TaperOne
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #2 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 3:39pm » |
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Hi,
I could be wrong here, but isn't the mileage held in the ECU, not the speedo. If my thinking is right, this could be a genuine 26k miler. If so, surely worth a look to anyone wanting one.
Aye Aye, anyone told the Captain!
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TaperOne
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waders
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No, the dealer say's its done 47000, but it's showing 26000 on the new clock!!
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TaperOne
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #4 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 3:55pm » |
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Hi Waders,
I hear what you are saying, but if the speedo was changed at 19k in 2000, it might only have done 7k since then. All the dealer is doing is adding up the two mileages. I am sure it is mentioned on the website somewhere that changing the speedo does not alter the mileage as it is held in the ECU. Hopefully someone can confirm this.
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TaperOne
PS. Might see you at the Herts meet. Live in Harrow so not too far to go.
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Lee
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #5 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 4:06pm » |
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still a pretty looking scorp, what is burr walnut dash and can i get some i have only got plastic that looks like wood
Lee
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waders
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Harrow, just up the road from me in Barnet .
So I'll see you on the 16th
Re-read the add though, the car has done the 26k since 2000
Barry.
Ps. Lee, Burr means it's cold round 'ere, or butter if your french! A cold buttery trim then 
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #7 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 4:21pm » |
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thanks barry i think i will stay with the warm plastic one then , how many for the 16th do you know yet
Lee
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I also noticed that the dealer say's the Scorp has two keys with it and no mention of the red one, strange if it had such carefull owners  No history mentiond other than an invoice for new clocks!
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on Jan 6th, 2005, 4:21pm, Lee wrote:| how many for the 16th do you know yet |
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10 Scorps have shown an interest and probably some Mk2 & Mk3 Granny's
Any more for any more? All welcome.
Barry
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craig
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #11 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 6:37pm » |
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well then firstly,1998 and 6 previous owners already
not even sure if it's an ultima you know,front indicators,and those wheels,looks more like a ghia/ghia x to me,could well be wrong though
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #12 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 6:55pm » |
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It is an Ultima Registered 1998 in Nouveau Red according to the VRM
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #13 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 7:05pm » |
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maybe its got the wrong wheels on it. an owner could of sold the nice 12 spokes to sum crazy person desperate to upgrade their scorp..... As for the bumpers ect it could well be made on the change over from normal to facelift? who knows, scorps are a law unto themselves
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #14 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 7:16pm » |
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sound's about right nick,think we all know about that particular bit of ford's "querkyness"
still dont seem right to me though
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #15 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 8:11pm » |
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on Jan 6th, 2005, 6:37pm, craig wrote:well then firstly,1998 and 6 previous owners already
not even sure if it's an ultima you know,front indicators,and those wheels,looks more like a ghia/ghia x to me,could well be wrong though |
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Craig,
i emailed him and asked about the bumper and wheels, here is his reply.....
it does have the facelift front end and this is one of the last one made as for the wheels there ford ones
View this listing now to bid or purchase this item.
Item # Item Title Listing end date
4517579902 1998 ford scorpio ultima 2.3 16v auto swap/px 16-Jan-05
Thank you,
amautos
what do you make of that
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Baz
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #16 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 8:25pm » |
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Personally I would say that it is a facelift model but it has had a front end crunch, hence the headlights and the wrong bumper, as facelifts in breakers yards are non existant usually.
It has the centre rear headrest and also the 3 point rear centre belt so it is definately a 98 model. The wheels are the old (95,96) Ultima alloys and are only 15" as opposed to the 16" 12 spokes.
I would definately think it has had a smash at the front and the bumper came with the wrong lights (no fogs) but they used them anyway
Just my opinion (There's not only Eric that can play Sherlock!!)
Baz
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #17 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 8:32pm » |
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LOL well done Baz..... didnt think of that
are u a policeman?
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #18 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 8:34pm » |
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I agree with Baz 100 percent - its a shame really as it puts you off knowing the repair has been done "on the cheap" as opposed to new parts through an insurer.
I have to say I am glad I am a member of this illustrious forum as a year ago I could well have bought that car not knowing any different!
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Baz
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Re: Dealer exagerations!!
« Reply #19 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 8:46pm » |
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I could be putting you all off the trail then put a cheap bid in myself!!
And no I am not a policeman....I'm far to honest a person for that!
Baz
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