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ferretmobile
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facelift grill
« on: Mar 4th, 2005, 11:38am » |
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Hi shipmates, can you fit a facelift grill and trim on to a non face lift?
Any ideas would be welcome. My existing non facelift grill is a bit stone chipped & I would like to improve its nose 
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Richard
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Yes, but you have to have all the bits that go with it.
Others that have the facelift grill will be able to help but the bonnet is the same so it is a yes.
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craig
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richard..
although the bonnet is the same,the fixing holes for the grill are not,so what you will need is the bracket that ford sell,that you bolt the grill onto,then bolt the bracket with the grill on,onto the car....
price about 6 mts or so ago was about £13.00
HTH
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Paul B
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #4 on: Mar 4th, 2005, 9:30pm » |
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Oh please god, NO !!! 
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Another Crew Member - SHIPMATE
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Part of Speech: noun
Definition: shipmate
Synonyms: able-bodied seaman, barnacle bill, barrelman, bluejacket, boatman, cadet, circumnavigator, deck hand, frogman, gob, hearty, jack, jack tar, lascar, leatherneck, limey, marine, mariner, mate, middy, midshipman, navigator, navy man, old salt, pilot, pirate, sailorman, salt, sea dog, Seabee, seafarer, seaman, scorpio friend on forum, shellback, shipmate, swab, swabber, swabbie, tar, tarpaulin, water dog, windjammer, yachtie, yachtsman
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Baz
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #6 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 12:39am » |
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Oh....deck hand!!
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Richard
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on Mar 4th, 2005, 2:47pm, craig wrote:richard..
although the bonnet is the same,the fixing holes for the grill are not,so what you will need is the bracket that ford sell
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Craig.....
Like i said you need all the bits, 
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on Mar 4th, 2005, 11:44pm, Captain / Vice Admiral wrote:Another Crew Member - SHIPMATE
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Part of Speech: noun
Definition: shipmate
Synonyms: able-bodied seaman, barnacle bill, barrelman, bluejacket, boatman, cadet, circumnavigator, deck hand, frogman, gob, hearty, jack, jack tar, lascar, leatherneck, limey, marine, mariner, mate, middy, midshipman, navigator, navy man, old salt, pilot, pirate, sailorman, salt, sea dog, Seabee, seafarer, seaman, scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum scorpio friend on forum , shellback, shipmate, swab, swabber, swabbie, tar, tarpaulin, water dog, windjammer, yachtie, yachtsman
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Thats from the Oxford Dictionary then 
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granorpio
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #10 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 1:45pm » |
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Time to walk the plank me thinks me harty LOL
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ferretmobile
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #11 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 8:55am » |
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Arrr, be the frying dutchman...arrrr 
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Nick_H
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #12 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 2:29pm » |
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Hi,
I'm curious what this 'bracket' actually does - if the bonnets are the same, then aren't the mounting holes in the same places? (Doesn't the grille/surround just bolt on with (6?) bolts?)
I'm not saying anyone's wrong, I'd just like to know more, as I want to make the same mod one day...
Cheers,
Nick H.
(No nautical references at all...)
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Baz
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #13 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 5:47pm » |
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I'm selling one on ebay at the moment but the mounting holes on the bonnet all appear to be the same as those on the non facelift. The opening bracket changed I believe but not the holes in the bonnet, otherwise, why are there so many old pre-facelifts driving round with the new and improved facelift ones?
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Nick_H
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #14 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 5:59pm » |
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Interesting, Baz...
My new Tourmallard Green Ultima could do with one of those...
[BTW: What the flip is a "Tourmallard" - who at Ford has the job of making up these names?! I'd like to read their job description... ]
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #15 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 7:04pm » |
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Hi all!! I've tried to fit a couple of facelift grilles to non facelift bonnets now, and the only fixings that line up are the ones on the ends, but not the middle ones! If you take a close look at a facelift grille fitted to a early scorp, you will find the middle of the grille is loose! (gibbio has got this problem if i remember rite) 
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #16 on: Mar 7th, 2005, 7:23pm » |
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Well I must bow to your superior knowledge on this one then as I thought they did line up.
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Vulcan
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Oddly enough I have fitted a pre facelift to my facelift car and it seemed to line up perfectly, at least I don't remember any problems. I did it in the summer...see pic below...
The extra holes in the bars are there to pull it back into line as the two end screws where missing from the grille I had, but if they had been there they would have slotted through the holes perfectly.
George
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craig
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i think there might be some confusion here.......
IF you buy/acquire/obtain a second hand grill from a facelift,and want to put it on your pre-facelift,there would not be a problem because the fixing bracket would already be on the grill in the first place.......
IF HOWEVER you buy one NEW from fords or equilavent,you WILL need the fixing bracket,because the holes will not line up,(well the 2 middle holes anyway),now dont ask me why this is because i dont know the answer to that,all i do know is this,when i bought my facelift grill NEW,that is all you get the grill,the badge,chrome surround and mounting bracket are all "extra",and to fit the grill to the car,you have to have the mounting bracket.................
hope this clears up the confusion...
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Nick_H
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Re: facelift grill
« Reply #19 on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:22pm » |
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Thanks, Craig.
That's certainly helpful to know.
Cheers,
Nick H.
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