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Lee
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been offered a travelpilot fot the Scorp very cheap,
just needs a gps airiel just wondering what these things are worth ?
also comes with the disc
Lee
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mr._floppy
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Re: how much
« Reply #1 on: Nov 15th, 2006, 7:12pm » |
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Travelpilot , Is that just Sat Nav ?
I just got rid of my Sat Nav thing on Ebay, it got me into more trouble than it solved.  It always takes the shortest route to your intended destination, so it cheerfully takes you off A roads and Motorways and guides you onto B roads, C roads, and unclassified farm roads to get you there in what it thinks is the quickest way .
From now on I'll just use a map, a pen and a bit of paper and me eyes . 
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TiberiuS
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Re: how much
« Reply #2 on: Nov 15th, 2006, 7:34pm » |
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LOL @ Mr Floppy 
Don't see all the hype with these things. I travel about a lot, my best friend is a UK road atlas and a local A to Z.
If you drive for a living and cover 40k a year then mabye things are different 
I know at least 2 people who have sat nav systems and never drive further than the nearest town centre 
All depends on the model mate, any model number or link to the page?
Regards, Bruce.
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: how much
« Reply #3 on: Nov 15th, 2006, 11:05pm » |
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couldnt agree more tiberius, all this fuss over sat nav, mine cost 2.99.......aa road atlas, just plan my route before i leave.
there's people i work with that HAVE to have the latest sat nav, yet they only venture out of brixton once a year, but now they wont put the key in the ignition without the sat nav....
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Matt
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Re: how much
« Reply #4 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 2:09pm » |
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I though about getting sat nav, so borrowed a friends for a few days, there not worth all the hype,
instead i use multimap, just print off the directions, jump in the car and your away! it's free to 
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cossieguy
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Re: how much
« Reply #5 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 3:13pm » |
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on Nov 16th, 2006, 2:09pm, Matt wrote:I though about getting sat nav, so borrowed a friends for a few days, there not worth all the hype,
instead i use multimap, just print off the directions, jump in the car and your away! it's free to |
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I get AA route finder print out and go. Had to go to my cousins new house in London(I had only driven inside M25 twice). I got lost and rang him for directions I was 200 yards from his house
Who needs satnav?
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Geoff_W
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Re: how much
« Reply #6 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 4:43pm » |
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They really start to come in handy if you are visiting a strange town and you have street & number for getting you to meetings and stuff and to give you countdowns for arrival and voice instruction can be useful, but if you are not under time pressures then you can womble about under your own steam
I have noticed that when I am Sat Navving in Scotland that a couple of roads whilst gloriously empty have been a bit track like. One of which was a gated road but looking at the map later it saved me about 35 miles
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Kjetil S
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Re: how much
« Reply #7 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 4:59pm » |
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The sat nav saved me A LOT of time and grief when trying to get through Oslo this summer as I found myself stuck in rush hour traffic and no idea where the E6 was. Just pushed the Navigate -> home button and off I were 
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dh_dove
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Re: how much
« Reply #8 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 6:24pm » |
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Dear All
When I went to school in the sixties and seventies and did O level and A level geography we were taught how to read all types of maps - from OS to Mercator projection.
Do they still teach these basic skills today? Or is that another victim of dumbing down? 
DH Dove
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Baz
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Re: how much
« Reply #9 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 6:32pm » |
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Hmmmm try reading a map and driving through the centre of Paris at the same time. Dumbing down is't the problem it is people who don't want to embrace technology.
Do you people who still use maps have a microwave? Why? What is wrong with the cooker? Or the gas ring? Or the campfire made from sticks?
Get a sat nav and stop living in the 1980's
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Lee
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Re: how much
« Reply #10 on: Nov 16th, 2006, 6:36pm » |
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on Nov 16th, 2006, 6:32pm, Baz wrote:Hmmmm try reading a map and driving through the centre of Paris at the same time. Dumbing down is't the problem it is people who don't want to embrace technology.
Do you people who still use maps have a microwave? Why? What is wrong with the cooker? Or the gas ring? Or the campfire made from sticks?
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lol @baz
i've been using my tomtom for the last 6 months and it is great but you still need a map, but incase you never knew it's agaist the law to read a map while you are driving along the road
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v4-max aka Cheekyboy1
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Re: how much
« Reply #11 on: Nov 17th, 2006, 10:35pm » |
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i have a sat nav in my truck, it took me down a very narrow b road where i encountered a 12ft 4inch bridge. truck is 13-6 had to reverse my artic 2 miles b4 i could turn around. so i will stick to my maps thanks very much.
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cossie_al
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Re: how much
« Reply #12 on: Nov 17th, 2006, 11:04pm » |
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Got to admit I do tend to look at a map before I go on a journey of any length.
However, I did get a garmin sat nav system for the missus when she first started to drive. I set our home address as a waypoint so if she ever got lost she could hopefully use it to get home. she has used it specificaly for this twice but she uses it for 'normal' stuff on a regular basis.
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pappa
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Re: how much
« Reply #13 on: Nov 19th, 2006, 9:25am » |
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I use PalmOne Tungsten E|2 handheld in my work and I have
a GPS gradle for it. For me it's a little wonder. If I'm going to
meet a customer that I've never visited before, I just start
the ViaMichelin in my Palm, enter the address (or pick it up
from my contacts which have been synchronized with my
laptop) and start driving...
I use my brain and map to help me out, because the
ViaMichelin program is made in France.... It sometimes
thinks that an extra 200km is needed to get me from where
I live to the towns in the south-east Finland
Now when I'm coming to Liverpool next year, I'm using
it with the Bluetooth TomTom GPS receiver and it will guide
me directly to the nearest pub from the hotel! Or better
yet, it takes me back to the hotel after the pub tour
Now how's that for a good reason to buy a gadget like this!
But sure, I'm a freak. I've got three GPS receivers
One for my fishingboat.... and an extra laptop for it...
I'm an addict...
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dh_dove
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Re: how much
« Reply #14 on: Nov 19th, 2006, 2:47pm » |
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Baz
Point taken, what I was trying to get across is that in the past we all knew (more or less) how the UK was laid out ie where Glasgow was in relation to Lincoln, which roads you would need to take to go south-east and you only needed a quick look at a map to sort out the details.
Personally I dont need a Sat Nav because I can read a map and when neccessary my window winders work.........
IMHO It's like letting children use calculators in maths exams, sure they can come up with the right answer, (albeit sometimes out by a factor of 10,100,1000), but they have no idea of why.
Sat Nav is a brilliant leap forward in technology and my Road Angel uses it (sorry Highlander).
But it's still not perfect and the ability to be able to properly read a map is a skill worth learning. 
NB All us Geography types are the same...we just love maps...... 
DH Dove
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: how much
« Reply #15 on: Nov 19th, 2006, 3:31pm » |
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'Dear All
When I went to school in the sixties and seventies and did O level and A level geography we were taught how to read all types of maps - from OS to Mercator projection.
Do they still teach these basic skills today? Or is that another victim of dumbing down? '
spot on Dove, why waste money on a gimmick that apparently often takes people the wrong way?
this topic has made me wonder something; the sudden need for lots of people to have sat nav, is it a reflection of the populus that dont have the ability to read a map? or is it a 'must have' fashion?
i love technology and have plenty of it, but the sat nav craze doesnt interest me at all, and it is old technology thats been made cheaper in recent years for the 'herds'. i wonder what people did before it was made affordable? i spose everyone was driving round lost? but hold on, so are half the people now with sat nav.....
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Spannerdemon
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I think Sat-Nav is a personal preference, and I prefer not to have one. 95% of my journeys are to places that I go to regularly, so I know my route.
If I need to go further afield then I use www.streetmap. co.uk and the AA's route planner online before I leave, and I can find anywhere I want to. My dear wife then navigates me effortlessly to our destination.
Like last week, for example, we went up to Oxford to see Status Quo in concert. Birthday and Anniversary trip. No problem at all, and we ended up right outside the door of our hotel a few hours after leaving Torquay.
I don't rate them, but I accept that they do have their use for certain people who really need them for their jobs, rather than those who just want them because they are the latest car accessory.
They are also, so I understand, the most stolen accessory from cars at the moment !!
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dh_dove
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QUO
« Reply #17 on: Nov 19th, 2006, 5:19pm » |
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Spannerdom
Hope you had a great time at the Quo...I'm jealous.........
NB Saw Rory Gallagher twice before his most untimely death BRILLIANT!
DH Dove
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Spannerdemon
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Cheers DH.
The QUO were BRILLIANT......as always!!
One of the best performances we've seen, and we've been to 27 of their concerts!!
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TiberiuS
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Re: QUO
« Reply #19 on: Nov 19th, 2006, 9:21pm » |
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on Nov 19th, 2006, 5:19pm, dh_dove wrote:
Eh
Wouldn't want to walk into the chemist and ask for a pack of those
I'm not decrying satnav, just that I don't personally need one. I'm ok at reading maps and finding directions
It seems to me that the GPS part of the package is great but the streetfinding part needs a lot of work. Had a mate come from Wales today, 300mile trip. He left at midday, should have been simple: M4 > M25 > A12 > A120 > A133. Satnav told him to leave M25 and go through Epping
What? Epping? Thats miles away
Should have left the M25 at the A12 and gone Eastbound towards Chelmsford, Colchester, Ipswich. He's only had it 2 weeks and already it's got him lost...
He got here at 7pm, all to pick up a pair of speakers
Regards, Bruce.
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