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pete from Hull
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 10th, 2007, 11:17am » |
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Have you had any problems without it in
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 10th, 2007, 1:16pm » |
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on May 10th, 2007, 10:25am, big_neil wrote:| i,ve had a broquet fuel catylist pack stuck in my kit car fuel tank for 20 yrs now to enable the leaded petrol only head to work on unleaded fuel, never had any probs yet , am i to expect some? |
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But as a performance enhancement on a vehicle that doesn't have the limitations that yours does and uses an Engine Management System, does it really have any worth? I think the experts say otherwise.
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dan_the_man
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 10th, 2007, 5:40pm » |
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wow, what a responce. cheers gent's. it was more performance than economy I was after , this is a great debate though. would I be correct in thinking the ignition advancers would be useless with the ECU ? or cancled anyway .
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 10th, 2007, 7:32pm » |
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hi jc try the 2p in coke 
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 10th, 2007, 10:01pm » |
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'Taliban stated that such things have been used in Motorbikes for years & that they apparently do work, but maybe only in engines that don't have fuel injection. The Fuel Cat has been used on alot of motorbikes, with apparent, noticable enhancement in performance.'
i was actually talking about the ignition advancers, they used to be a mechanical 'bolt on' that advances the timing, they're now an electrical 'bolt in' gizmo for fuel injection, not sure how good the latter ones are.
as for magnets in fuel, fuel cats etc, never tried them, sounds like 'snake oil' to me lol
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 10th, 2007, 10:03pm » |
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i always wondered about 2p in cillit bang.....
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 10th, 2007, 10:10pm » |
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on May 10th, 2007, 10:03pm, taliban wrote:| i always wondered about 2p in cillit bang..... |
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I tried it once. It does clean it, but it doesn't bring out a new coin shine, more a dull acid erosion like effect. Not disimilar to putting lead crystal through the dishwasher quite a few times.
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TiberiuS
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 11th, 2007, 12:55am » |
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on May 10th, 2007, 10:10pm, Fidget wrote:
I tried it once. It does clean it, but it doesn't bring out a new coin shine, more a dull acid erosion like effect. Not disimilar to putting lead crystal through the dishwasher quite a few times.
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Like path cleaner, flux etc would...and a lot cheaper than Cillit Bang 
on May 10th, 2007, 10:10pm, TRACEYS_LIMO wrote:| hi jc try the 2p in coke |
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That's the reason I don't drink Coke anymore...great for cleaning the loo though, admitted
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 11th, 2007, 7:27pm » |
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now that does look like garbage, a better or more even air flow will improve performance, hence people gas flowing heads for racing etc, but it says that thing fits in the air intake pipe? what before the air filter? if so it'll just fan the air into the filter, if it fits after the filter it'll just fan it towards the combustion chamber over the same bends, rough edges etc that cause turbulence.....
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« Reply #30 on: May 11th, 2007, 8:20pm » |
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fiddy bux also ! it does look nice on the website though . I may be foolish at times . . . not that foolish .
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TiberiuS
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 11th, 2007, 9:21pm » |
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LOL LOL LOL
Only on this site could a conversation go from resistors that make your car go faster, through vacuum pumps which make your ...ermm...never mind... to Cillit Bang and minature devices to control the weather in your car's air intake system
Dan, don't go there mate...your Scorp is nice but give her a chance and she'll take all your money and leave you poor - that tornado thing would serve more use as a paperweight, I doubt it'd even work in a vacuum cleaner 
Which brings me on to those cyclone container things you fit onto bagged cylinder vacuum cleaners and Calgon tablets for that washing machine which goes wrong even before you've removed all the packaging, let alone used it enough to find out whether or not it scales up if you use Calgon...
Do they work? Like hell they do
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: May 11th, 2007, 9:54pm » |
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actually, there is a very good cure for scale in your washing machine.............a bottle of vinegar once a month...
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: May 12th, 2007, 2:59pm » |
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response to petehull,,,never tried it without it in as when leaded fuel was being phased out i was told that my car would burn valves out if unleaded was used on a leaded head, was advised to strip the head and put hardened valve seats in or use a fuel additive, i used neither and fitted the "broquet", so in answer to your question ,,, no i didn,t try it without!
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 12th, 2007, 8:21pm » |
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I have tried these magnets before (many years ago) and had absolutely no change in fuel consumption.
I also watched the article on mythbusters and they did try various things that allegedly improve fuel cosumption.
I think the conclusion was, as has already been said keep your car in good servicable order and go easy on the loud pedal.
No chance of me ever getting 30 mpg with this heavy right foot of mine then 
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 12th, 2007, 10:08pm » |
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A good tip for getting some extra power & better fuel consumption....
Take out the spark plugs & have a look down the holes.
If the plug seating has any carbon etc sitting around the edge, then give it a clean with a rag & if the deposits are hard, give it a scrape with a long screwdriver until it looks nice & shiney again.
Then clean up the sealing rings on the plugs with a bit of fine grade wet & dry, so they are nice & smooth.
Put the plugs back in & take it for a spin. The difference should be noticed straight away & the mpg will also be better.....there was quite a significant improvement in both acceleration & mpg on my 2.3 
Any deposits around the plug seating will mean that they won't seal properly & gas will escape, causing loss of compression & hot/lean running.
This is often something that is overlooked when replacing the plugs
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: May 14th, 2007, 11:35am » |
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on May 11th, 2007, 4:47pm, jonnycab wrote:
Scorpio does have an AIR resonator just after the MAF, which should bring the effects we all want, higher mpg, more torque, more power, less emissions. The thing is that the Scorpio resonator isn't restrictive. It makes air vortexes without sticking in something in the air flow.
A lot of "hi-tech" gadgets can be seen here
http://www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible.html
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: May 14th, 2007, 3:11pm » |
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that is one KOOL site. thank you Octavian P. I will save my money !
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taliban aka Cheekyboy2
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: May 14th, 2007, 9:06pm » |
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very good point jonny, something i've always overlooked.
if anyone has actually bought those 'fuel magnet' things, dont chuck em, stick em round your oil filter, they'll help filter out microscopic particles.....
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Re: mirical products !!!!!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: May 15th, 2007, 9:23am » |
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on May 14th, 2007, 9:06pm, taliban wrote:very good point jonny, something i've always overlooked.
if anyone has actually bought those 'fuel magnet' things, dont chuck em, stick em round your oil filter, they'll help filter out microscopic particles..... |
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A good idea about putting them around the oil filter....it sounds crazy enough to work
Did anyone realise that the diff plug is magnetic & serves the same purpose. Take it out & have a look at the slivers of metal stuck to it....shows you how badly your diff is deteriorating
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