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pat
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No Charges
« on: Oct 30th, 2007, 12:43am » |
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Just watching another cops programme.
Criminal activities, assault on police, resisting arrest etc, etc.
Nobody is charged with anything, let off with a caution or no action taken.
Do the powers that be realise (or care) that we law - abiding people simply do not understand why these people do not have the book chucked at them?
The world has gone mad.
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #1 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 6:02pm » |
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think its because the prosecution side is down to the CPS (criminal protection service) who are probably overloaded with what was considered more important prosecutions, and in their bid to save money are very likely to overlook offences they consider to be minor.
then of course some of these offenders might be due for a holiday at the taxpayers expense if some of these offences are prosecuted.......we cant have that can we, i mean, the prisons might overflow.....
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #2 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 7:39pm » |
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on Oct 30th, 2007, 6:02pm, taliban aka Cheekyboy2 wrote:| think its because the prosecution side is down to the CPS (criminal protection service) who are probably overloaded with what was considered more important prosecutions, |
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Yeah, like dropping a chip or a fag end 
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #3 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 7:48pm » |
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on Oct 30th, 2007, 7:39pm, pat wrote:
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Or having your car windows tinted 
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #4 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 7:52pm » |
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richard, leave that one alone, it was quite adequately dealt with on police camera action..... 
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #5 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 8:10pm » |
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #6 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 8:33pm » |
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Didn't see it, It just annoys me that's all 
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #7 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 10:16pm » |
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it was quite a coincidence, i dont normally watch it but the trailer mentioned tinted windows. they had a list of items that are being targeted, number 1 was illegally tinted windows, they stopped a car with them (front windows), the copper measured them with the toy they used on baz, a 'tintman', clever bit of kit instantly gives a % readout. cant remember what it was exactly for this car but it was around 20%. the copper issued the pg9 and the owner just ripped the film off instantly, which didnt say much for the company that put it on. the coppers comment about the tinted windows was the same as yours; visibility is seriously reduced at night.
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #8 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 11:47pm » |
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I can see the coppers' point about tinted windows. If they pull somebody, they can't see if there is a gun pointing at them. Here in Nottingham there may well be, especially if it is a BMW.
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #10 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 10:29am » |
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Cheers mate, that was interesting. I rest my case.
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #11 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 6:23pm » |
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double the price of drink and cut the easy access would help its becoming as cheap as water and really easy to get
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #12 on: Nov 1st, 2007, 8:22pm » |
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Don't say that, the steward of my drinking hole might be watching!
I take your point but that makes all those of us who enjoy a pint suffer for the antics of the nutters.
Having said that, I don't know what other answer there is but they've tried it with fags and it hasn't stopped all the smokers smoking.
Would beer be any different?
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #13 on: Nov 1st, 2007, 10:17pm » |
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alcohol and cigarettes are totally different issues.
unfortunately its the immature culture we have in this country with alcohol thats the problem, and we've had it for generations; as little kids we hear about 'the hard stuff', a 'mans drink', 'beer', etc etc so kids will always want to experiment and become part of the 'in the know' club. then when teenagers start to drink they're not men unless they drink pints, they're labelled p**fs if they dont want a drink or drink half pints. the pint measure or most peoples attitude in this country to it is another insight to the social problem; would it really matter if we took european values on the size of the glass? i.e. small and large beer glass. if you look at the european attitude on drinking its so vastly different from ours, so much more laid back, they dont have the 'got to drink 15 pints on a friday nite' attitude......
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #14 on: Nov 2nd, 2007, 1:19am » |
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Taliban....I reckon you've got a point there 
The attitude toward alcohol in this country is almost draconian....under 18 is a no-no, over 18..drink as much as what you want 
The French, for instance, have a far more broad minded attitude when it comes to alcohol. Even though they have laws on the legal limit to drink, it is in there culture for the whole family to have a glass of wine at mealtimes, including the youngsters.
Being bought up this way is an education in life, as it teaches you that alcohol is recreational.
In this country it's only usually the adults that drink at the table....so it's no wonder so many youngsters see alcohol as some kind of magical elixir that makes adults happy.
Unfortunately, it's not one glass of wine with their dinner that they want, they want to get pi**ed on lager/cider, which unfortunately.....on a teenager.....seems to have the total opposite effect of having a social drink & turns them into brain damaged halfwits, who want to fight the first person they see
You'd think, that with all the techno games & gizmos that teenagers have nowadays, then they'd be too busy playing their play-stations to worry about getting pi**ed & beating someone up....but not so ....it is getting worse
Do teenagers, who sit in front of game consoles all day playing violent games, become detatched from reality ?...so much so, that they think it is perfectly okay to go out with their mates (gang), have a few cans of Stella & stamp on someones head & not realise that there will be serious consequences for their actions that they may regret in later life ?....
Or will they always be like it....& just continue to add to the already growing anti-social, brain-damaged part of society that thinks there is nothing wrong with burgling houses, stealing cars & mugging old people etc
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #15 on: Nov 2nd, 2007, 7:27am » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2007, 1:19am, jonnycab wrote:Taliban....I reckon you've got a point there
they want to get pi**ed on lager/cider, which unfortunately.....on a teenager.....seems to have the total opposite effect of having a social drink & turns them into brain damaged halfwits, who want to fight the first person they see
You'd think, that with all the techno games & gizmos that teenagers have nowadays, then they'd be too busy playing their play-stations to worry about getting pi**ed & beating someone up....but not so ....it is getting worse |
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I.M.O This is a major part of the problem....
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Do teenagers, who sit in front of game consoles all day playing violent games, become detatched from reality ?...so much so, that they think it is perfectly okay to go out with their mates (gang), have a few cans of Stella & stamp on someones head & not realise that there will be serious consequences for their actions that they may regret in later life ?.... |
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And every generation get worse because the things that are classed as bad now become not so bad to the next generation and so on....
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Or will they always be like it....& just continue to add to the already growing anti-social, brain-damaged part of society that thinks there is nothing wrong with burgling houses, stealing cars & mugging old people etc
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Sadly, I think you have it in one JC....
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #16 on: Nov 2nd, 2007, 5:15pm » |
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theres some very interesting points in this debate, and does each generation get worse? probably yes, but is it as bad as we think? probably not; dont forget as 'we' get older our opinions etc can change, i.e. what did we do at weekends when we were 19/20?
we were having this very debate in the work canteen the other month, the whole debate (in which we basically all agreed about these young hoodlums) was brought to an abrupt halt by a single vicious disconcerting knife twisting comment that made us all scuttle off pretending it wasnt aimed at 'me',
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'we sound like our parents!'
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #17 on: Nov 2nd, 2007, 6:01pm » |
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when i said earlier about doubling the prices i did not mean at pubs but at supermarkets who dump it at really low prices £16 for two twenty packs of premium lager which is 40p per bottle which is cheaper than drinking coke, i am sure that JC will confirm that a lot of people he takes out are half cut .so it saves them money before they even get to were there going 
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #18 on: Nov 4th, 2007, 1:37am » |
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Yep, most people are half cut before they go out, purely because pub/club prices are so expensive...
....In Brentwood, there is a place called the 'Sugar Hut' which is open late & it is £4.00 for a half pint bottle of lager (don't sell pints in glasses) ......& get this, it's the most popular place in Brentwood
They roll out of this place at 2am after spending almost a weeks wages, get in my taxi, & then have a go at me because they think I'm ripping them off .....I tell them it's a standard meter charge set by the council, but do you think they listen ?
Sometimes I'm convinced that some punters think I do this for a hobby, or just for the petrol money
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Re: No Charges
« Reply #19 on: Nov 4th, 2007, 1:19am » |
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Taliban wrote....'we sound like our parents!'
Not sure about that one  , because our parents grew up in a different age than we did & have different values.
Every generation becomes more broad-minded than the last. Society becomes more desensitized towards violence, pornography & horror because it is thrust more to the fore & becomes a part of modern day life & thinking 
Personally, I think the human race, in evolutionary terms, may have reached it's peak...& the animal instinct in our primeval brains may be becoming more prominent ...
....there seems to be alot of cavemen out there .....
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