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Tompion
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #1 on: Jun 29th, 2008, 9:05pm » |
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If he said perished rather than worn I wouldn’t class that as wear, I would have thought perishing is time/heat related and shouldn’t occur with a relatively new car.
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Jonnycab
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #2 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 12:17am » |
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Warranties are a waste of money on a second hand car over a certain age, unless it's a main dealer warranty.......as most problems can be put down to wear & tear because it is out of the manufacturers warranty period 
I may be wrong, but I don't see how a warranty company can insure a car over three years old against anything that isn't down to wear & tear  .....practically any part of a car is prone to failure after the initial warranty period has finished & it can all be put down to wear & tear 
Reminds me of a recent run in with a second hand car dealer who was asking well over the odds for an 11 year old 2.3 Ultima estate. The price was apparently justified because it came with a 3 month warranty
How can you warranty an 11 year old car against anything other than wear & tear ?.....if the engine had blown up a month after I had bought it, do you think that would be covered ?.....of course it wouldn't, it's 11 years old, it's wear & tear 
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Scorpio_Mike
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #3 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 11:48am » |
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I have to agree - from a previous experience about 25 years ago I got an extended warranty chucked in with my Porsche 924 - OK, it didn't cost me anything on top of the purchase price of the car ( which was quite a bit anyway for me at the time ! ).
Problem was, anything that went wrong with the car was never covered - only the things that never go wrong were covered, but not if down to normal wear.
In my mind these warranties are not worth the paper they are printed on. 
Sorry to hear you have had another large repair bill on the Peugeot, especially so soon after the £3.5k autobox episode. 
Personally I detest French cars and would never buy one. Sure you feel the same now.
Other cars I would avoid due to high repair and service costs are Audi and BMW.
Chap at work has an Audi S6 with a 4.2 V8 engine - cam belt change at 80,000 miles costs about £1000 ! Maybe that's why you see a lot of these for sale with just under 80,000 miles on the clock....a poisioned chalis for the unwary. 
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cossie_al
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #4 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 12:18pm » |
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Mike you have hit the nail on the head mate!
Dont get me wrong when the car isnt playing up, its fantastic but I am now in a position where it can not be trusted and every time I look at it I feel sick especialy when I consider what my old 24v could have been like if I had spent all this money on it.
I suppose the best thing would be to get rid but as my dad put it Ive spent all this money on it and the next owner has chance to get 10 years trouble free motoring.
Anyone with a crystal ball is welcome to send me a pm 
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #5 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 1:54pm » |
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I find used car warranties are worthless. how can you give a warranty on something that might not have full service history or might of had some abuse in its lifetime.
And remember warranty companies give bonuses for saving money!
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #6 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 7:42pm » |
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hi scorpioworld there was a member trying to get in touch with you recently have a look at the posts in the news section
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #7 on: Jul 1st, 2008, 4:16pm » |
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hello all ,my scorp has been covered by warranty direct since i bought it in aug 2001 all probs (Not many) have been dealt with in a excellent manner ,i cannot fault warranty direct on these matters one bit and found no probs at all with dealing with them. it,s had the usual scorp probs,new radiator,susp arms, top strut bushes and bearings.drop links,and a new thermistor probe and vacuum pump for the c.c, all done with no quibble whatsoever. am i unique?
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #8 on: Jul 1st, 2008, 7:04pm » |
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Neil,
I am shocked thats the same company
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cossie_al
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #9 on: Jul 1st, 2008, 10:31pm » |
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Got the car back paid the bill myself and I am going to appeal against the wear and tear issue.
However things go from bad to worse When I rang the garage for an update the workshop manager told me the car was fully repaired and he had just handed it over for a full vallet. you can collect it about 5pm.
Thats nice I thought.
So off I went to pay up and get the car I paid the bill and was told the car is overthe road in the car park, (this was a public car park with parking meters)
had a quick look round the car and realised that the vallet was obviously a rushed job but never mind it was never going to be as good as I would have done it.
As I opened the door I was confronted by dirty oily marks on the cream leather driver seat, the central arm rest and the doorcard. as well as oily boot marks on the cream carpet.
I was absolutely livid but decided not to go back in and raise the roof because I would have eneded up in a cell for the night.
When I got home I discovered a ding on the drivers door in almost exactly the same place as the one that appered on the passenger door when the gearbox was done,
I did phone the dealershipand explain that this was not acceptable but all I got was so why didnt you come back in?
I have experienced these marks many years ago when I was an apprentise and they are caused by opening the doors when the car is on the lift.
I am going up to the dealers first thing in the morning and the roof will be well and truley off!!!!!
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #10 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 9:15pm » |
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al, wot can i say?in my case or anyone elses come to that i would have thought that susp arms and strut bearings etc would have been serviceable items and come under wear and tear but they were replaced with no quibble,mind you one was less than a year old and done under ford replacement policy.the only problem now if it is a one is as the car is coming up to 80,000mls the labour costs are only 80%of the total but i have had my money,s worth from warranty direct. incidentally not a lot of people realise that fords and other manufacturers 3 yr warranty does not actually cover a lot and you must read the small print .
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Baz
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #11 on: Jul 3rd, 2008, 9:12am » |
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I'm with Neil on this one. I have had warranties from Warranty Direct on both S29 and the red one I had before. Both had radiators done under warranty (S29 had 2 before the warranty ran out) and it also had new disks on the front and a few other bits as well.
As for the marks on the leather seats and carpets; I would have been straight back into them regardless. Not going straight in has left it open for them to deny everything in my humble opinion!
Baz
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cossie_al
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #12 on: Jul 3rd, 2008, 1:46pm » |
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Baz,
You are right, I should have gone back in but my temper has got me in trouble before. All I wanted to do was get home and clean it.
I have been back to the dealer and because of the problems they are giving me the next service at parts only, no labour costs
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #13 on: Jul 3rd, 2008, 9:46pm » |
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cossie_al.
Tell em you'll supply the service parts,and get em half price from your local factor !
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #14 on: Jul 5th, 2008, 11:16pm » |
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i used to work in the motorbike trade and it seems the same principles apply; warranties arent worth the paper they're written on, Jonny, that garage charging over the odds because the car comes with a 3 month warranty.....a simple question to the seller; 'would that be the warranty that the car has to have by law'?....
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #15 on: Jul 31st, 2008, 7:40pm » |
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Check out http://www.click4warranty.co.uk/contact-us.aspx
They cover some wear and tear items, not sure if so for 9+ year old Scorpios though but their warranties are great for newer cars.
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TiberiuS
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #16 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 8:18pm » |
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Al, how's the Pug now? Got it sorted?
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #17 on: Aug 16th, 2008, 10:00pm » |
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Hi Tibs,
As far as the brakes are concerned its repaired but as far as the warranty is concerned I have sacked them.
They point blank refused to pay, even for the master cylinder which they did originally agree to pay for.
The reason they gave was that a service was missed 18 months before I owned the car this is irrispective of the fact that I have had it serviced twice within 20 miles of the service schedule.
if you take a look at the website apparently it does not matter if the previous owner didnt keep upto date with the servicing as long as the new owner/policy holder does. Absolute pack of lies.
The best laugh I had was after I stopped the direct debit I got a phone call from them asking was I aware the monthly payment was overdue and did I have a credit card to hand so they could do it there and then.
I very politely (not) explained that they would never get another penny from me.
And here comes the punch line, I was told if I didn't make the payment by the end of the day I would no longer be covered.
No prizes for guessing what I said before I slammed the phone down!!!!!
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #18 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 8:36pm » |
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well thats it I have had my fill of french cars. Its now for sale on ebay.
So in a few days I will be looking for a low mileage diesel estate scorp.
I should be so lucky
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TiberiuS
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Re: Vehicle warranties a word of warning
« Reply #19 on: Aug 18th, 2008, 12:58am » |
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Hello Al. Sorry to hear that mate but can't blame you, I'd probably be thinking the same after all that. They seem to sell quite well, hope you get a decent price for it at least. d**n nice specced car, just a shame about the issues .
Any idea what you'll look for next?
Regards, Bruce.
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