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Transit Project
« on: Mar 11th, 2009, 6:56pm » |
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I am currently giving the old Mk4 Transit a Scorpio 24v engine and gearbox upgrade, should be fun when its finished 
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Matt
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #1 on: Mar 11th, 2009, 7:49pm » |
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seen a few of them done now, mostly with the BOA lump, good fun im told 
stick a manual box on it tho, you know you want to lol
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #2 on: Mar 11th, 2009, 7:57pm » |
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I would but its a lot of extra work and I would imagine pretty suicidal 
The transit forum havent seen a BOB conversion before,
all BOA (that has to do with the something called PATS and multiplex wiring apparently) 
basically I just need the transit Automatic prop (which I have sourced)
the transit selector and linkage
fabricate some engine mounts
mount the Scorpio fuel pump in the tank
Oh and install the entire Scorpio wiring loom
Easy!!!
Got three lovely Scorpio Electric seats in it too, hopefully can get the aircon and power steering working as well
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #3 on: Mar 11th, 2009, 9:44pm » |
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the pas shouldn't be to much work, if the cossie's rack fits in the tranny you could have it speed sensitive to
the tranny boys don't know the BOB's like us, and we all know the PATS and wiring aint the hardest bits to sort out
id try with the manual, auto box might not be so good for tugging scorpios behind lol, you could always look at the 4x4 tranny for its box and bits?
the trannys are easy to work on as the front comes off fairly easily, so you can just wheel the lump in place on a trolley
funnily enough the other day i was talking to tons of fun (craig) about what i should do with the 2.9 out of my car once the 4ltr lump is in it, be both agreed a p100 BOB would be a bit of fun and soon kill us
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #4 on: Mar 11th, 2009, 10:03pm » |
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The transit MT75 apparently needs an adaptor plate for the cologne and is too wide for the 24v manifolds which have to be extended outwards to give enough clearance....and so on and so on.. lol
too much work for me, i'm quite happy with an auto
The front doesnt come off on mine, some Ford guy has welded a dirty great front crossmember on it!!
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #5 on: Mar 13th, 2009, 3:04pm » |
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Hi stuart. You do know that the earlier pinto engined transits had a beefier version of the type 9 -b gearbox ?. Much stronger than the sierra items . Mind you a transit with monster kickdown potential must be a sight to see . Yep it's true. Matt & i were talking about a BOB P100 !!!  . Dont think my blood pressure could take that at the moment though & Matt needs to open a savings account for rear tyres & underpants, for when his 4.0ltr monster is finished
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #6 on: Mar 13th, 2009, 5:37pm » |
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are you going to pinch a 2ltr diff and bung that in it as well? or at least transplant the inners of the diffs
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #7 on: Mar 13th, 2009, 6:59pm » |
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Now that would make it a little bit more fun ...Suicidal, but fun 
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #8 on: Mar 15th, 2009, 9:43pm » |
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 5:37pm, Matt wrote:| are you going to pinch a 2ltr diff and bung that in it as well? or at least transplant the inners of the diffs |
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Scorpio diff wont fit, Transit has a solid axle and the Scorpio crown wheel and pinion wont fit but it does have a 4.56 on it just now
although I may have to upgrade the rear axle as I dont think they take too much abuse
I think the F150 axle is looking like the way to go
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #9 on: Mar 15th, 2009, 9:46pm » |
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 3:04pm, Tons_of_fun wrote:| Hi stuart. You do know that the earlier pinto engined transits had a beefier version of the type 9 -b gearbox ?. Much stronger than the sierra items . Mind you a transit with monster kickdown potential must be a sight to see . Yep it's true. Matt & i were talking about a BOB P100 !!! . Dont think my blood pressure could take that at the moment though & Matt needs to open a savings account for rear tyres & underpants, for when his 4.0ltr monster is finished |
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P100's usually have good ratios on them too, 5.something usually i think??
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #10 on: Mar 15th, 2009, 10:46pm » |
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blimey that will be one rapid ol van
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #11 on: Mar 16th, 2009, 1:45pm » |
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brother had a mk2 swb work bus.we put a 3lt v6 in one afternone things wear simple back then.good fun demoralizeing hot hatchs at the time
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #12 on: Mar 16th, 2009, 10:30pm » |
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I bought a new Transit 190 in 1980 with a 3lt V6 and overdrive,used to do about 500 miles a day delivering horticultural products nationwide.It averaged 19 mpg,but was a dream to drive and very relaxing and quiet.Those were the days 
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #13 on: Mar 16th, 2009, 10:43pm » |
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Gozz do you realise that was 30 years ago!
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #14 on: Mar 16th, 2009, 11:13pm » |
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Och noo ! ah should be in the back a me ain hearse be now I bet that Tranny's dust now,and some of the later ones I've had ! The most disappointing one was the very last before the 2000 shape,I bought it as the new one came out because the look of it was in my eyes superior to the newfangled style,it had the legendary 2.5di with the higher diff as I only moved the deceased at that time,it had all the goodies but made such a chronic resonance that I could hear it and feel it in bed,in addition to which it did a princely 24mpg ! It went in to see Mr Ford twice but he declared it in fine fettle,I reckon the di was underpowered with the high diff,and needed a turbo.I subsequently borrowed a new 2lt turbo,filled it up with diesel and went to the south coast delivering and collecting bodies.On my return I had to pump out half a tank of Derv,it did 38mpg quietly and without fuss,what a contrast,needless to say I ordered one.My latest is a 330 with 2.4 turbo which makes light work of the trailer with a hearse on,and apart from the tacho is legal weightwise,but then,I'm not working for hire or reward !
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #15 on: Mar 17th, 2009, 12:09am » |
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Can you remember the Reg? there are a few old V6's kicking about
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #16 on: Mar 17th, 2009, 7:48am » |
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DAV 100 V.The Ford bloke gave me a list to choose from including DAV 99 V which I suggested they put on a V6 Wadham Stringer ambulance for St Johns,and they did.
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #17 on: Mar 17th, 2009, 8:22pm » |
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Well the reg is now on a lorry, cant find any details on your transit, not looking good i dont think
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #18 on: Mar 17th, 2009, 9:09pm » |
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At least the plate is still alive and kicking ! I sold the van early in it's life due to the loss of a job it was doing,a man from Bourne,Lincs bought it to tow his catering kiosk which he built himself and which was 'over engineered' to say the least.I saw it in Whittlesey,Cambs some years later looking somewhat sorry for it's self in the hands of a building trade bloke,and proving that the Ziebart I had applied when it was new had little affect
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Re: Transit Project
« Reply #19 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 2:57pm » |
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Stuart,
The auto will do a fine job in yr tranny even for towing, just fit the biggest extra oil cooler you can fit and it'll be fine.
Also a really strong auto box can be built for the 24 valves using the guts out of a 4.0 litre explorer box. It has heavy duty sprags, gearsets, band servos and extra clutch plates in the drums A 2 litre scorp converter gets em off the line quicker with the tyres ablaze, due to its higher stall speed.
This is exactly what I did to my Cossie estate when the box blew up last year, and it's wicked.
Also for those building 4 litre Cossies, use a Explorer ECU and you'll get 5 speeds plus converter lock out of yr auto gearbox. The fuelling won't be too far out, lambdas might correct it enuf for the 24v heads, if not use adjustable pressure reg and it surely will
Got some chassis welding to do this summer where the estates always rust, so will contact you nearer the time as I wanna fit a 2.3 diff while its all out so if you got a good 'un I'll be in the market lol
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