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NormanHall
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Was there ever a 2.9 - 12 valve manual ? or even a cossie manual, as I have never seen any advertised.
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #1 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 9:17pm » |
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Not as Standard, a few have been converted though
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NormanHall
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #2 on: Nov 20th, 2009, 7:00am » |
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Has any member got a converted one ?
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Tons_of_fun
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #3 on: Nov 20th, 2009, 8:08am » |
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Used to have a 2.9 MK3 granada with a manual box ( 2wd ). Lovely car  . Matt has just finished converting his cossie to manual  , so he,s probably the best to ask ( still fresh in his mind ). They are one hell of a beast with a waggly stick 
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Matt
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #4 on: Nov 20th, 2009, 6:34pm » |
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yea my cossie has a wobbly stick in the cabin now, took a while but its finally up and working (untill the battery gave up this morning )
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NormanHall
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #5 on: Nov 20th, 2009, 8:13pm » |
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where did you source the bits, what box is in it, did the propshaft marry up, does the speedo read true, anty update would be appreciated
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #6 on: Nov 20th, 2009, 8:19pm » |
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Thee are a couple of threads detailing this Norman, try a search.
Basically i think it involves using the bellhousing from a V6 manual box (Sierra/Granada) mated to the rear of the Scorpio diesel MT75, using the manual propshaft, pedal box etc
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #7 on: Nov 21st, 2009, 1:42am » |
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does the 24v probe or cougar use the same cossie engine? and did they ever come in manual?
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tlundkvi
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #8 on: Nov 21st, 2009, 7:49am » |
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Those are front wheel driven, and probably need major reworking to fit. I believe the cougar came with mondeo engines, e.g. 2.5 V6.
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Matt
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #9 on: Nov 21st, 2009, 11:32am » |
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Stuart is correct
basic run down
v6 mt75 bell housing mated to a diesel mt75 rear end, diesel hydraulic clutch (requires bell housing mods)
diesel prop shaft, pedal box and brake master cylinder,( i used the cossie one but its not long enough as the brake pedal sits lower and doesn't turn the brake lights off  will be changing this for a manual master)
diesel brake/clutch fluid pot
escort cossie clutch kit (may be worth using a v6 friction plate as the escort one isnt dampened enough and you hear the springs rattling a bit at idle)
sierra 2.9 flywheel
wiring mods, and a fooling kit to bypass the auto's electrics
so theres a few bits i'll do different to how it is now once the other engine is ready to fit
parts were sourced all over the place, ebay, word of mouth, scrap yard trauls, ive prob clocked up nearly a 1000 miles getting bits / having them modded
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NormanHall
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #10 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:32pm » |
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I dont think that I will bother, since I turned seventy my get up and go is refusing to operate properly
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Dave2302
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #11 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 5:03pm » |
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Myself and others on Ford Power have proved that a properly built and modded Auto is faster than a Manual acceleration and gearshifting wise, and no clutch etc.
I know the waggly stick purists hate em, and will slate me for this, but I love 'em
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #12 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 6:13pm » |
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Just out of curiosity, why do you want to convert to manual ? If it's better acceleration your after why not fit a diff from a 2.0ltr. On a 12v you should have around the same acceleration as a cossie.
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Tekno
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #13 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 8:04pm » |
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manual + 4.27 diff = insane acceleration
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Dave2302
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #14 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 8:06pm » |
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yep that'll do the trick, dont forget to fit the 2.0 litre VSS plastic gear too or the speedo / trip computer will read out
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Matt
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #15 on: Nov 22nd, 2009, 8:28pm » |
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manual + 4.27 + 4.0 24v = weekly trips to kwit fit 
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Tons_of_fun
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #16 on: Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:43pm » |
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As if you need an excuse anyway
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Dave2302
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Re: 2.9 manual
« Reply #17 on: Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:33pm » |
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on Nov 22nd, 2009, 8:28pm, Matt wrote:| manual + 4.27 + 4.0 24v = weekly trips to kwit fit |
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