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sveibraa
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Superchip ??
« on: Apr 10th, 2004, 12:55am » |
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Hello from Norway!
I am a prowd owner of a 1998 Scorpio Estate 2,3 Automatic. And I wonder if anyone of you have tried to equip your Scorpio with any product like Superchip or other similar chip for ECU ? And with what results 
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JohnJ
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #1 on: Apr 10th, 2004, 5:15pm » |
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I think there is one out there but it will only give you 10bhp  at most......I think there was talk about it a while ago and to get more you have to increase induction and exaust. thats is getting rid of the cat and getting some sort of cone filter to get loads of air in and out then get you chip and see what happens... 
JJ
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Scorpioen84
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #2 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:13am » |
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Hi, SveiBraa...
I`m from Norway to, been looking for an Chip to, but it seems like changing exaust is just as efficiant...
Supersprint exaust, and a good chip can give about 30-50bhp...
How mutsh did you pay for an -98 estate 2,3 aut..?
In Norwegian...
Hei, tore heter jeg..
Har tittet litt etter chip og eksos, men finner ut at det er en stor kostnad i forhold til effekten man får...
Kansje 5000kr for 40hk...
Betalte 105.000kr for min -95 2.0 man.. (inkl. omreg. og rep.) Si 93.000 etter omreg.&rep..
Håper å høre fra deg.
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KEEF
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #3 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:21am » |
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Hi
"Well that's easy for you to say"
( Sorry I just couldn't resist it )
Keith
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KEEF
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #5 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:45am » |
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HI Scorpioen 84
No it will not bother any one. any way your english is a 100 % better then my Norwegian My Friend So keep writing in. Sorry I couln't help about the Chip but the only chip's I know about have "Fish" with them.
Keith
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #6 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:46am » |
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No it doesnt bodder me 
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #7 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:49am » |
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You are not helping them much
are you John (Your Worse then me)
Keith
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Scorpioen84
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #8 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 6:51am » |
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 good to know... 
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sveibraa
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #9 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 7:29am » |
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Hi Scorpioen84
I've been told that a chip can give me about 10 hp, that isn't much but every little increase is welcome. And with a good chip I also hope that it would use a little bit less with gas.
Somebody also said that Autronic engine steering is much better than any other chip. Unichip is also an solution.
Can Supersprint deliver exhaust to Scorpio 95-98 ??
Svein
Hei Scorpioen84
Jeg heter Svein.
Jeg har hørt at ca. 10 hk er normalt hva man kan tjene ved chipping, men det som kanskje er like viktig er økt dreiemoment og kanskje litt lavere bensinforbruk. Ved normal kjøring så bruker den nå ganske akkurat 1,2 liter pr. mil.
Superchip vet jeg leverer , men Unichip kan jo programmeres til hver enkelt bil men dessverre mye dyrere. Det var også noen som sa at Autronic datasprut er en bedre løsning enn chip fordi bilen da ville bruke mindre bensin enn med chip. Har fått tilbud på Superchip ferdig montert og testkjørt for kr.6500,-
Kan Supersprint levere eksos til denne bilen ??
Kjøpte bilen som varebil i fjor med km 82000 og prisen var da ca 130000,- inkl. reg. Det er orginalt ekstrautstyr for 47000,- montert på den så jeg tror ikke prisen er helt gal.
Hilsen Svein (sveibraa@hotmail.com)
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #10 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 7:51am » |
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Fikk konstantert sprekk i eksosen ved siste service, så skal skifte snart, undersøker grundigere da...
2.0 brukte 0,8l mila på laaang kjøring... ca1l mila på vanlig...
130.000 høres fornuftig ut for -98 2.3 stv....
105.000 på foretning for 2.0 -95 var litt stift...
6.500 for montert chip.? Litt stift, skal kjøre lenge for å tjene inn det... hehe...
Er det mang hest org. på 2.3 igjen.?
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #11 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 9:06am » |
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Hei Scorpioen84
Sprekk i eksosmanifold er nok en svakhet på Scorpio. Det var det på min også samt jeg har en bekjent som har en 95 2,0 som hadde akkurat samme problem. Jeg måtte vente i 3 mnd på min manifold, men heldigvis for meg så ble det dekket av garanti.
På 2,3 så er det 147 hk orginalt. Har akkurat funnet en leverandør som priser Superchip til kr 4500,- men vet ikke om det er ferdig montert.
Svein
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I've superchipped my XR2i, along with the usual mods of cam, powervalve and exhaust....Superchip reckon on 10hp more but.....it's the whole power curve that is increased. The whole rev range is smoother, more torque and the economy has increased if you don't boot it all the time.
In all, the superchip has increased the smooth power delivery and remapped the ECU.......highly recommended.
It's a little pocket rocket now!
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #13 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 10:09am » |
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A month ago I fitted K&N replacement filter and I'm surprised, because with that filter my fuelconsumption has decreased with about 8%. My idea is that with my filter and a good chip, and maybe an exhaust I could get about 160 hp (originaly 147), better trottle response and even a little better fueleconomy.
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #14 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 10:09am » |
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SuperChips own "improvment-list"..
( www.superchip.com ) ( www.supersprint.com )
• Gain up to 10% more horsepower and 13% more torque on Gas vehicles.
• Results vary by vehicle - your results could be better.
• Raise or eliminate top speed limiter* .
• Increase rev limiter* .
• Adjust automatic transmission shift points and shift firmness* .
• Calibrate for changes of rear gear ratio* .
• More towing power and quicker acceleration .
• No tools necessary for installation .
Svein.
Har sent deg en e-mail...
( www.mekonomen.no )
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Paul B
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #16 on: May 1st, 2004, 9:17pm » |
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It is a bit steep isn't it. Mind you, an extra 20bhp - hmm
And it reads DTCs too. Maybe not as comprehensive as the OBD but could be worth a look one day.
Didn't see the Scorpio listed, though I guess it must be possible.
Paul
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #17 on: May 2nd, 2004, 4:11am » |
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hi there
i was using the galaxy as a ref (same 2.3 engine).
regards
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DJWerkz
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The only thing I have ever 'chipped' was my Chevy Suburban when I lived in the USA, but to be honest, the plan to chip the vehicle was part of a wider project and included other upgrades. In my experience, and those of other guys that have years of experience hot-rodding V8's, using a chip alone is a total waste of money.
If you think about it logically, if you change the programming of the car by puting a different chip in, it will surely have a knock-on effect through-out the combustion process,...what I mean is, you upgrade one component which will only lead you to having to upgrade another (so on and so on)!
Very often, when we ran our Trans-AM's, Camaro's and other performance cars, there were always problems with owners car's who though they could just bolt-on a chip and get instant improvement. My old Technician in the USA once said to me, "there is no such thing as a bolt-on performance enhancer".
If I retract a little, when I changed my chip (this was on the standard Chevy 5.7 V8 ), we also did the following:
- Cold-air induction kit with K&N open filter
- Blue-printed and over-bored throttle-body
- Blue-printed, balanced and high-volume injectors
- Adjustable fuel-pressure regulator
- Performance exhaust manifolds, CAT and exhaust system
All these components were listed by the manufacturer as 'bolt-on', and when we did the vehicle ran like a dog. We had to creep over to the Technician's workshop one day and have the Technician call each manufacturer to get the exact performance characteristics of each product so the Technician could get them all to work with one another properly.
Eventually it was all set-up and the vehicle ran superb (we lived at a high-altitude with very dry desert climate and often had to run over the Sierra-Nevada mountains, so getting the vehicle to breathe properly was always a challenge).
In short, I am not attempting to slag off any chips or people who want to install them, but my advice is not to purely look at just a chip to give you value for money performance improvements. You would be better off saving more of your pennies and targetting other aspects of the engine that may need addressing.
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Re: Superchip ??
« Reply #19 on: May 2nd, 2004, 6:29pm » |
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I totally agree with DJ - there is only one bolt-on performance part and that's a supercharger and I can't imagine anyone fitting one of those to their Scorpio.
The best way of improving performance for least cost is to reduce weight - lose the spare wheel and replace with a runflat can - empty the boot of tools etc - run the fuel tank half full etc etc. And then the only difference will be against a stopwatch or when racing another vehicle.
Steve
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