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Dave
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Strange Throttle Thing
« on: Feb 14th, 2005, 4:33pm » |
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Hi all.
I've had issues with a sticking accelerator cable recently, so today we had a wee look at the cable and had a greasing session. We traced the cable around the engine bay.. I had no idea how long the thing is! It's about four metres long! Anyway, we discovered that this component is sticking. Apart from sticking, it's really rusty, and i'm wondering if someone can advise as to what on Earth it is!
It's located here:
http://tinypic.com/1qfzog
And this is it:
http://tinypic.com/1qfzvo
If I can get a real name for it (apart from weird accelerator barrel thing that moves) then I might try to get a new one.
Cheers
Dave and Ben.
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #1 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 4:47pm » |
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looks like the autmatic speed control or cruise control motor to me.. You cam take the top off and grease the gears inside...and make sure its working properly
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Dave
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #2 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 5:07pm » |
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Right! That would make sense.. Thank you, Dave. We greased it up and it was returning to base point, so if that cures it then we'll probably grease it a lot more just for good measure.
I expect Ford used the same mechanism in mondeos and similar.. hopefully if it is kaputt then we'll be able to get a new one.
Thanks Dave.
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Greendragon
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #3 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 5:27pm » |
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Hi
The item in the pic's you are looking at are
The traction control unit
regards
Pete
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #4 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 5:33pm » |
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PS to last message
The speed control unit is on the other side under the main beam light surround
regards again
pete.
PSS My traction control unit was sticking also sprayed some WD 40 over and working parts seems ok now after 2 months fingures crossed.
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #5 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 6:53pm » |
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I stand corrected then.........I only looked at the second Picture...... sorry !
It is indeed the TC unit
Apologies for giving duff info
Snoopy
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #6 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 10:16pm » |
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Snoopy
I only understand now where these items are after Scorpio-Man put me right when I was having a problem with the cruise control system.
(No way did I understand what they where untill then )
I am learning a lot from this site myself.
and belive me I appreciate all the help it supplies
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Dave
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #7 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 9:17am » |
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Many thanks to all replies, will road test later and probably pop a bit more grease on for good measure.
Cheers
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Baz
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #8 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 9:38am » |
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Hey, well don't be driving into any shops!! Especially as my car will probably be in front of it
Baz
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Dave
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #9 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 9:45am » |
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heh heh no I think someone got there first! Damage looks nasty, think I am correct in saying it isn't the first time it has happened there either? Shame indeed.
Hopefully the sticking throttle should be sorted now - it has only done it for a few days but it ain't sommat you want to leave. Luckily it didn't stick far down, just didn't want to return completely.
Probably using it later so fingers crossed.........
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #10 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 11:22am » |
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....However, I did let it roll off from standing one day and after about twenty seconds with no pedals pressed I was doing over 40mph. Dongerongé!
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #11 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 7:34pm » |
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Hi again
Have you checked that you have a cover fitted
I forgot to say I had to buy one for mine as per TSB
Regards again 
pete
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.158/1995
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 30.11.1995
Section: 23
Model: Scorpio '95 ¼ MY with traction control system (TCS) from 9/94, build code RB
Markets: All
Subject: Engine speed and/or vehicle speed is not reduced when the accelerator pedal is released.
If a cover is not already present, one should be fitted to the throttle plate control motor (see Parts Required).
Description Finis Code
Cover, throttle plate control 6 950 889
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #12 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 9:47pm » |
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Cheers for that, Dragon, very impressive detail there! It does have a cover.. but it's good to know we can still get them. Thanks for the part number, it might come in handy...
Does it say anything else besides the thing about the cover?
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #13 on: Feb 17th, 2005, 7:07pm » |
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Hi Dave
This is the whole TSB.
Hope that answers your question mate?
regards
pete
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.158/1995
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 30.11.1995
Section: 23
Model: Scorpio '95 ¼ MY with traction control system (TCS) from 9/94, build code RB
Markets: All
Subject: Engine speed and/or vehicle speed is not reduced when the accelerator pedal is released.
Summary
If the engine speed and/or the vehicle speed is not reduced when the accelerator pedal is released, it is possible that the adjustment locking pin has not been removed from the throttle plate control motor. After removal of the locking pin, the accelerator cable should be adjusted as described in Operation No. 23 811 0 (Service Microfiche). If a cover is not already present, one should be fitted to the throttle plate control motor (see Parts Required).
Parts Required
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³ Description ³ Finis Code ³
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³ Cover, throttle plate control ³ 6 950 889 ³
³ motor ³ ³
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Labour Time
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³ Remove the adjustment locking ³ 0,5 hours ³
³ pin, adjust the accelerator ³ ³
³ cable, ³ ³
³ and fit the cover to the ³ ³
³ throttle plate control motor ³ ³
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Repair Codes
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³ Causal Part: ³ 6 950 889 ³
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³ Defect Code: ³ 09 ³
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µ 1. Where present, remove the cover from the throttle plate control motor.
2. Remove the adjustment locking pin (Fig. 1) and adjust the accelerator cable as described in Operation No. 23 811 0 (Service Microfiche).
3. Fit the cover on the throttle plate control motor. (See Parts Required if not previously removed in step 1).
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Re: Strange Throttle Thing
« Reply #14 on: Feb 17th, 2005, 10:53pm » |
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Hi all
What's this cover then?
Anybody got a picture?
Shall be able to understand and see what all the talk is about. Who knows mine be missing 
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