Author |
Topic: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS (Read 1317 times) |
|
mickey
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
 
Posts: 5
|
 |
TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« on: Feb 21st, 2005, 11:18pm » |
 Quote  Modify
|
2.0 ltr 16v ultima, traction control light not coming on on the dash when ignition is switched on or when the traction button is pressed, the button lights up but thats all, anyone had similar problem cant find any postings on this subject. thanks
|
|
 IP Logged |
|
|
|
scorpio_man
Administrator
Ford Kuga awd
Posts: 5654
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #1 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 6:01am » |
Quote Modify
|
hi there
have you tried it on grass to see if it worls? you should feel the pedel push back on your foot. might just be the light on the dash is broken. other than that, might be the motor (front, right hand side). i'm not sure as i don't have it 
ps. it's linked to the abs. does this work? pass the start up test? ( ie abs light goes out).
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
David_South_West
Full Member
24V............ .Goodness
Posts: 188
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #2 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 7:47am » |
Quote Modify
|
Try at night or during the day with side lights on..dash warning can be a bit dim with side lights off.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Vulcan
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #3 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 8:33am » |
Quote Modify
 Remove
|
I just noticed this morning while the TCS was operating (on the icy snow) that the TCS warning light flickers while it is doing it's work. I haven't ever noticed this before, is it right?
Also mine is quite bright, easily bright enough to see in full daylight with the winter sun streaming in the windows...
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Dave
Senior Member
Tourmallard 24v (ex-owner)
Posts: 1984
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #4 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 9:24am » |
Quote Modify
|
Vulcan,
yes the traction control light is meant to come on when it is doing its job.
Cheers
|
|
IP Logged |
Life after the Scorpio ain't easy..
|
|
|
Badboytunes
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #5 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 6:36pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
Yup mine flickered as it was working . it did it when the pedal was being pushed back up......
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
granorpio
Full Member
1998 Silver Facelift Cosworth
Posts: 589
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #6 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 7:37pm » |
Quote Modify
|
on Feb 22nd, 2005, 6:36pm, Badboytunes wrote:| Yup mine flickered as it was working |
|
Tried mine this morning with all the snow, the light came on the dash when switched on but didn't flicker at any time, why should it flicker 
OddJob
|
|
IP Logged |
- Mike -
So nearly said "goodbye" but now Scorpio will see another day, alongside the replacement! eek!
|
|
|
Badboytunes
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #7 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 8:49pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
as it is working it flashes as a warning that the tc is operational... thats my view. I may be wrong but thats how it worked on mine and it worket perfectly....
Cheers Nick 
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
phuturephantasy
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #8 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 9:25pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
Oddjob - did you press the traction control button, if so you have just turned traction control off and the light on the dash will illuminate and stay lit to let you know that it is turned off.
Traction control is ON by default whenever you start the car and TC light will only flash whenever it has had to back off the power. Much more fun with it turned off anyway...
The light should illuminate briefly when you start the car and then go off, if it stays lit then it indicates a fault with it somewhere.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Badboytunes
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #9 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 9:45pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
i think that was what i was trying to say.... You said it alot better tho
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
geraghtyg
Full Member
2001 XG25
Posts: 215
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #10 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 10:20pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Just wondering, what causes the accelarator pedal to push back? It's like as if the something is physically pushing the pedal back. From what I have been told, the TC works by applying the brakes to the wheels. If this is the case, why would the accelerator pedal be pushed back? Hope this is not a silly question!!!
|
|
IP Logged |
Graham G, Dublin, Ireland
|
|
|
Badboytunes
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #11 on: Feb 22nd, 2005, 10:51pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
something to do with a motor winding back the throttle me tinks..........
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Snoopy
Administrator
Very old.BAD tempered and missing friends.
Posts: 6278
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #12 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 7:53am » |
Quote Modify
|
The Traction Control System (TCS) as fitted to the '95 Scorpio, is designed to prevent wheelspin in such situations as driving on wet or icy roads.
The system is linked with the anti - lock braking system. Both systems use the same wheel speed sensors, Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) and electronic control module. The TCS does, however, require additional components (pump and valves) to be incorporated into the HCU. TCS can be made available only if anti - lock is fitted.
The system works by transferring torque from the spinning wheel to that with the most traction. This can be achieved by either applying the relevant brake or reducing the throttle opening. The braking function is achieved via the HCU. The throttle function is controlled by the Throttle Intervention Unit which is positioned between the throttle pedal and throttle body and has two cables linking the pedal and throttle. The unit effectively " stretches" the cable so giving a reduced throttle setting for a given throttle pedal position, when the system is invoked.
The system uses a combination of braking and throttle intervention at road speeds up to 30 mph (50 km/h) and purely throttle intervention over 30 mph (50 km/h). When the system operates the driver is made aware of the fact by a warning light on the fascia.
The warning light will illuminate for approximately three seconds after key - on and then extinguish if no faults are present in the system.
If the driver so wishes the TCS can be disabled by means of switch located on the centre console. If the system is disabled the warning light will remain illuminated until the system is reactivated or the ignition is switched off. When the ignition is subsequently switched on the TCS will default to on.
If the system should develop a fault the warning light will illuminate. Only when the fault has been rectified will the light revert to normal operation
|
|
IP Logged |
HELP the FORUM.Please DONATE
|
|
|
Vulcan
Guest
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #13 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 12:12pm » |
Quote Modify
Remove
|
Yep mine works fine 
Under conditions like this morning with a 3 inch plus covering of snow over a frosty road last night and no gritting... the TCS kicked in a lot with the pedal kicking back at my foot then when braking the ABS engaging and the brake pedal kicking back at my foot... was like driving a bucking bronco this morning till I got to the major roads.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
mickey
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 5
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #14 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 3:16pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Problem sorted turned out to be a dodgy connection, many thanks to all who responded so promptly
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
granorpio
Full Member
1998 Silver Facelift Cosworth
Posts: 589
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #15 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:21pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Thanks guys
I've been using it back to front no wonder I didn't think it was up too much the other day 
|
|
IP Logged |
- Mike -
So nearly said "goodbye" but now Scorpio will see another day, alongside the replacement! eek!
|
|
|
Scorpioen84
Full Member
Saloon 2.0 16v TC 140bhp -95
Posts: 404
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #16 on: Feb 25th, 2005, 1:12pm » |
Quote Modify
|
I realy dont feel that TC on the scorp is as intelligent as Snoopys post states...
Not tansfearing power to the tyre with the most traction forxample...
Is the Scorp. (mine 95) TC less complicated, than the newer cars...?
I had a Focus Rentalcar with TC for a couple of days, and i cold not feel anything on the pedals, kickback and sow on.... Think i felt a power transfear to...
|
|
IP Logged |
....._____
._/__|___\___
|_(O)____(O)_)_________
|
|
|
Snoopy
Administrator
Very old.BAD tempered and missing friends.
Posts: 6278
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #17 on: Feb 25th, 2005, 2:01pm » |
Quote Modify
|
the reply I posted is from Fords own technical details and I would have thought that it must apply... Other than that I cannot comment.
Perhaps others with the TC can confirm this fact.
|
|
IP Logged |
HELP the FORUM.Please DONATE
|
|
|
geraghtyg
Full Member
2001 XG25
Posts: 215
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #18 on: Feb 25th, 2005, 4:19pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Is the TC that transfers power to the tyre with the most traction not the optional extra type (eccept on the 24V), with the limited slip differential (LSD)?
|
|
IP Logged |
Graham G, Dublin, Ireland
|
|
|
martin_rowe
Full Member
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 879
|
|
Re: TRACTION CONTROL PROBS
« Reply #19 on: Feb 25th, 2005, 4:37pm » |
Quote Modify
|
TC on the scorp reduces engine power to stop the wheel spin, ie backs off throttle. no LSD fitted to scorp as standard.
some systems will even apply the brake to the slipping wheel, but thats fairly late expensive stuff.
martin
|
|
IP Logged |
Rally Drivers Do It Sideways
|
|
|
|
Home
Help
Search
Members
Login
Reply
Send Topic
Print