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Hot air
« on: Mar 5th, 2005, 10:44am »
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The heater on my 1996 2.9 12v Ultima blows little air from the side vents but a lot from  the centre, are they all like this or is there a flap sticking somewhere ?
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 12:26pm »
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Can only say Paul that on mine it all comes out the same from all the upper vents.
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #2 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 1:24pm »
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Oddly a 96 ghia estate I borrowed was similarly feeble from the end vents - perhaps it`s me !
 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 2:07pm »
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but mine is the other way around, comes out the sides real powerful but not so strong as the centre.
i alway have mine set to the far right, that's windscreen i don't bother to keep swopping all the time.
the air mixes all together anyway.
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #4 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 2:42pm »
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I have mine set on feet 'n' screen but it does still come out of the face vents more powerfully than any of the others.
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #5 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 4:23pm »
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Likewise
 
 and to JOHNV if you have it on screen all the time the a/c is ON by defaut even though there is NO a/c light ON it is not possible to switch it off when in screen mode...
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #6 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 4:40pm »
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Snoopy, does this apply to standard AC too or just to Climate?
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #7 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 4:59pm »
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Yeah,  mine does the same so it seems to be a common quirk of the system, I'm not complaining though, on recent mornings where the outside temp. is well below zero  within three minutes of the engine being on there is oodles of  lovely  hot air to warm me bones.
 
   Never had a car with a better heating system.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 5:02pm »
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thanks snoopy, that's some more i learnt.
but i alway like to have the a/c on. not worried about if it uses a bit of petrol.
i read somewhere on this site, that if you don't use the a/c you should switch it on at least once per month, something about lubication of the unit or something like.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 5:05pm »
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hey mr_floppy.
that right' on three of my cars, the heat starts to come out within just one mile but at three miles, it real warm just like you say.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 6:48pm »
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mmm mine only gets warm when i'm stationary when moving the temperature gauge drops and only get luke warm air it's a 96 ultima saloon
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 7:29pm »
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i got one car that does that, never get warm, before I look to therostat, I going to after a run, and with the engine running, with a pair of leather gloves on, undo the filler cap slowly to see if that might dis-place any air that may or maybe not in the system.
If that don't do anything, I will put in a new therostate and drain and refill coolant very slowly.
The strange thing is, even with cardboard in front of the raditor, that does nor lift the temperture either.
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #12 on: Mar 5th, 2005, 8:00pm »
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In reply I think it only applies to cars with full Climate control  its all in the handbook http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook052.gif  et seq
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #13 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 4:57am »
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Steve(lufc),
   Its sounds as if you have either a blocked or leaking matrix.  The symptoms you describe are exactly what I had, turned out to be a very small leak in the heater matrix. There was no sign of a leak in the car (wet carpet etc.) but there was a funny (curry) smell,no amount of backflushing etc. would help.
 In the end I ripped the dash of to look at the matrix and found a mess. The bottom of the matrix was covered in limescale type of crud and could be seen to be weeping.
Sorry to suggest such a problem.
 
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #14 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 5:01am »
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Eddie were you losing coolant with that problem? or was it not noticable?
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #15 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 9:09am »
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eddie' funny you should mention a smell, there is a smell. looks kike the dashboard is coming out, i guess there is one screw to undo and the dash swings out of the way to make this the easiest and quickest job on the car !!!!!!!!!!!!. thanks eddie Roll Eyes
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #16 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 11:38am »
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that the part ( heater matrix ) is cheap to buy but the job of changing it is complicated. Is this job written up anywhere ?
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #17 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 12:17pm »
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Yes,  look  at the  Search/Map  page under  CC/ Air Con-Heater Matrix ,  there's a  detailed  removal  and replacement  article ,  looks  like a real  swine to do!
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 2:49pm »
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a quicker solution i think is to buy some big coats and gloves i'm going with that
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Re: Hot air
« Reply #19 on: Mar 6th, 2005, 5:30pm »
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Thanks Mr F., I have problems navigating the main site as I can`t get the buttons on the left, a search under "Heater Matrix didn`t bring up the page.
The job looks time consuming rather than difficult, worth a go if you have a spare few days and an extra car to get the one part / tool you had forgotten.
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