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Re: Fuse Problems
« Reply #20 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:20pm »
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i've got two keys but same stuff happens with each
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:27pm »
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there's another thing, i have 2 black keys, i do not not have a red key (beeing broken)
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Re: Fuse Problems
« Reply #22 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:28pm »
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From past discussions I think that the fuses for PATS are 16 and 17 by the way.
 
Do you have a red key?
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:30pm »
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sorry I missed your post by 1 minute there! I understand that it is possible to get another master key coded to your car, possibly by a locksmith. Has anyone else any experience of this?
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 23rd, 2005, 1:32pm »
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I have sorted the problem, it was a verry verry wierd situation. I have called somebody that has a shop with electronics/alarms and is some kind of specialist in this domain. Afeter a few checks, he observed the strange behaivior of the PATS led, he removed the plastic lid under the steering wheel,  first he thought is the connector from the identification unit ( a kind of ring around the key starter), but he dedcided to take it out, imediatly we obsereved a strange pice o duct tape that was all around the module, we went farther and got the tape out and now comes the wierd part, a key chip was fitted on the identification module. My set of keys i have recieved with my car from the ex-owner don't have a chip !!! the chip has somehow felt from its rage of action thats way there was no key / code recieved. Now i got the chip out and i'm keeping it separatly like a remote. Turn the ignition on and then move the chip closer to the ignition switch, the engine starts instantly. I really need to go to a ford dealer and get a set of new "reprogramed" keys. By the way the fuses were ok, and the original car alarm doesn't start if all the dors are closed including the hood sensor
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 23rd, 2005, 2:01pm »
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How odd!! Glad to hear you have found the source of the problem, Paul  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 23rd, 2005, 3:11pm »
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Best  checking  every  fuse, the electrical system is very sensitive . I remember accidentally  blowing fuse No. 43  ( heated seats/cigar lighter ) and the  b****r wouldn't  start  till  I'd  found it  and  replaced  it.
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Re: Fuse Problems
« Reply #27 on: Mar 23rd, 2005, 10:19pm »
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not uncommon Paul and great news that you're up and running ..what has happened is that the PATS module has gone kaput at some time and whoever sorted it has bought a second hand module and the key for it .. the transducer around the switch is merely the aerial and is the same on all Scorpio models .. so they have taped the chip from that key to the transducer aerial to give a permanent signal.. because the key they obtained would not of course fit the ignition or doors .. the down side of that is that while taped there you did in fact have no anti theft system ... as long as someone could get in or break the lock then the car would actually have started ..  well done though ....... STN
 
ps.. probably resulting in the need for an aftermarket alarm to give warning ....
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Re: Fuse Problems
« Reply #28 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 10:28am »
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i wonder if this has something to do also with the doors that can't be unloked from the key, neither elecrical, neither mecanicaly. Is there a way of unlocking the car beside geting in through the trunk ( if the back seats are not locked) when the battery goes flat ?
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